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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: "Li, Tong N" <tong.n.li@intel.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 10/10] *Tests* Scheduler profiling - Use immediate values
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:02:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070711050238.GC4025@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5FD5754DDBA0B1499B5A0B4BB5419485015CCB91@fmsmsx411.amr.corp.intel.com>

Hi,

* Li, Tong N (tong.n.li@intel.com) wrote:
> Mathieu,
> 
> > 	cycles_per_iter = 0.0;
> > 	for (i=0; i<NR_TESTS; i++) {
> > 		time1 = get_cycles();
> > 		for (j = 0; j < NR_ITER; j++) {
> > 			testval = &array[random() % ARRAY_SIZE];
> > 		}
> > 		time2 = get_cycles();
> > 		cycles_per_iter += (time2 - time1)/(double)NR_ITER;
> > 	}
> > 	cycles_per_iter /= (double)NR_TESTS;
> > 	printf("Just getting the pointer, doing noting with it, cycles
> per
> > iteration (mean) : %g\n", cycles_per_iter);
> > 
> 
> Some comments on the code:
> 
> 1. random() is counted in cycle_per_iter, which can skew the results.
> You could pre-compute the random addresses and store them in an array.
> Then, during the actual timing, walk the array:
> 
> index = 0;
> for (i = 0; i < ARRAY_SIZE; i++)
>       index = *(int *)(array + index * CACHE_LINE_SIZE);
> 
> 2. You may want to flush the cache before the timing starts.
> 
> 3. You want to access memory at the cache-line granularity to avoid
> addresses falling into the same line (and thus unwanted hits).
> 

This is true, my test code was not perfect. Thanks for the hints.
The improvements you propose will clearly accelerate my test program
quite a bit, but I doubt that it will cause even higher memory
latencies. Although using a random() at each memory access is slow, it
should give a good enough dispersion. And since do 3 cache trashing
passes in my code, I make sure that each and every cache lines are
trashed. In fact, since I do multiple accesses to each cache line (as
you noted in point 3), it takes more time, but makes it more certain
that I hit all of them at least once.

> If you do these, I expect you'll get a higher memory latency.
> 

I will use these comments in my next tests, thanks. :) However, I still
feel confident that the numbers I got from my run still hold.

Mathieu

>   tong
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-11  5:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03 16:40 [patch 00/10] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 01/10] Immediate values - Global modules list and module mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 02/10] Immediate Value - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 03/10] Immediate Values - Non Optimized Architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 04/10] Immediate Value - Add kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 05/10] Immediate Values - kprobe header fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 06/10] Immediate Value - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:45   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 19:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 20:18       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 20:37         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-03 21:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 23:10           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-03 20:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 21:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 07/10] Immediate Value - PowerPC Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 08/10] Immediate Value - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 09/10] F00F bug fixup for i386 - use immediate values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 20:43   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:11   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 18:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 14:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-04 20:31       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-05 20:21       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:29         ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:41           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 11:44         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 17:50           ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 20:03             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 20:57               ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 21:03                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  1:50             ` [patch 10/10] *Tests* " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  6:08               ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-11  5:02                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-06 22:14           ` [patch 10/10] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-06 23:28             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-06 23:38               ` Dave Jones
2007-07-07  0:10                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 15:45                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-07 17:01                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:20                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-07 17:59                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:55                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-06 23:43               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  2:25                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07  2:35                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  4:03                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07  5:02                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-04 20:35   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-04 22:41     ` Andi Kleen

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