From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:47:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707121447.16616.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1184260174.9346.85.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
On Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:09, Huang, Ying wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 22:48 -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> > >> The kexec jump is implemented in the framework of software suspend. In
> > >> fact, the kexec based hibernation can be seen as just implementing the
> > >> image writing and reading method of software suspend with a kexeced
> > >> Linux kernel.
> > >>
> >
> > I guess I'm (still) confused by the terminology here. Do you mean that
> > it fits into suspend-to-disk as a disk-writing mechanism, or in
> > suspend-to-ram as a way of going to sleep?
>
> It fits into suspend-to-disk as a disk-writing mechanism. But most
> tricks of suspend-to-disk will be no longer necessary in kexec based
> hibernation.
>
> > > I didn't understand the ACPI problem. Does this mean that CONFIG_ACPI must
> > > be disabled in the to-be-hibernated kernel, or in the little transient
> > > kexec kernel?
> > >
> >
> > I think the point is that if kernel A says "I'm suspending" and calls
> > the suspend method on all its devices, then kernel B finds that it has
> > no powered on devices to work with. But then couldn't it turn on the
> > ones it wants anyway? And don't you want to suspend them, to make sure
> > they're not still DMAing memory while B is trying to shuffle everything
> > off to disk?
>
> The devices should be put quiescent state to stop DMA like things. But
> they do not need to be put in low power state.
Exactly. Morover, I don't think it would be correct to put them into low power
states.
Greetings,
Rafael
--
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-12 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-11 15:30 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Huang, Ying
2007-07-11 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 16:28 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 8:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 23:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 5:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:43 ` david
2007-07-12 12:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:03 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 20:05 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 2:38 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:09 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-12 18:49 ` david
2007-07-12 18:42 ` david
2007-07-12 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:14 ` david
2007-07-12 19:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 17:09 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-12 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 14:43 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 7:03 ` david
2007-07-12 17:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 10:10 ` david
2007-07-12 13:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:22 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-12 19:03 ` david
2007-07-12 13:55 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 19:05 ` david
2007-07-12 14:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 18:57 ` david
2007-07-12 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:55 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-12 20:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 3:12 ` david
2007-07-13 9:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:25 ` david
2007-07-13 11:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:51 ` david
2007-07-14 8:33 ` david
2007-07-14 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:34 ` david
2007-07-14 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:13 ` david
2007-07-15 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:23 ` david
2007-07-15 22:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:22 ` david
2007-07-16 12:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 14:42 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-16 15:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 4:18 ` david
2007-07-17 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:34 ` david
2007-07-15 10:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:33 ` david
2007-07-15 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:33 ` david
2007-07-13 3:06 ` david
2007-07-13 5:42 ` Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 5:57 ` david
2007-07-13 6:20 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 6:27 ` david
2007-07-13 7:15 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 14:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 0:12 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 5:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-17 6:28 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 6:42 ` david
2007-07-17 7:26 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 7:34 ` david
2007-07-17 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 7:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-13 9:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 0:45 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-14 9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 5:37 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 9:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:38 ` david
2007-07-13 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 14:37 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:13 ` david
2007-07-13 15:12 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 15:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 16:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 18:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 16:48 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:12 ` david
2007-07-13 17:32 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 12:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-12 19:09 ` david
2007-07-12 19:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 23:15 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 16:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-14 5:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 9:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 10:55 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 9:30 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-15 10:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 8:13 ` david
2007-07-17 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 12:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-17 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-18 0:25 ` david
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-13 5:08 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:28 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 6:07 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-13 15:28 ` Al Boldi
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