From: jfannin@gmail.com (Joseph Fannin)
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Joseph Fannin <jfannin@gmail.com>,
david@lang.hm, "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:45:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070714004517.GA18336@nineveh.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707131130.51279.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 11:30:50AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Friday, 13 July 2007 07:42, Joseph Fannin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 08:06:43PM -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
> > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > > > Plus we need to figure out how to avoid corrupting filesystems and
> > > > swap in use by the "old" kernel and its processes (hint: a separate
> > > > "hibernation partition" is a no-go).
> > >
> > > I thought the existing hibernation wrote to the swap partition as it's
> > > dedicated space?
> > >
> > > I didn't know that anyone was suggesting writing the hibernation image to
> > > a filesystem that the kernel was activly accessing.
> >
> > I'm suggesting a dedicated, preallocated hibernation *file*, right
> > now. There's no way around it, if hibernation is to be reliable --
> > otherwise hibernation can fail if the system has used enough of its
> > swap space, so that there isn't enough room to write the hibernate
> > image.
> >
> > Even if it's desirable to allow hibernation to fail if the system is
> > too deep into swap, it's a moot point.
>
> If you're afraid of that, use a dedicated swap file.
I don't understand what you mean. A dedicated swap file for what?
--
Joseph Fannin
jfannin@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-14 0:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-11 15:30 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Huang, Ying
2007-07-11 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 16:28 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 8:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 23:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12 5:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:43 ` david
2007-07-12 12:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 14:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 15:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:03 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 20:05 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 2:38 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:09 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-12 18:49 ` david
2007-07-12 18:42 ` david
2007-07-12 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:14 ` david
2007-07-12 19:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 17:09 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 12:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 14:43 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 7:03 ` david
2007-07-12 17:18 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 10:10 ` david
2007-07-12 13:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:22 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-12 19:03 ` david
2007-07-12 13:55 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 19:05 ` david
2007-07-12 14:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 18:57 ` david
2007-07-12 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:55 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-12 20:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 3:12 ` david
2007-07-13 9:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:25 ` david
2007-07-13 11:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:51 ` david
2007-07-14 8:33 ` david
2007-07-14 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:34 ` david
2007-07-14 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:13 ` david
2007-07-15 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:23 ` david
2007-07-15 22:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:22 ` david
2007-07-16 12:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 14:42 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-16 15:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 4:18 ` david
2007-07-17 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:34 ` david
2007-07-15 10:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 19:33 ` david
2007-07-15 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:33 ` david
2007-07-13 3:06 ` david
2007-07-13 5:42 ` Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 5:57 ` david
2007-07-13 6:20 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 6:27 ` david
2007-07-13 7:15 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 14:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 0:12 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 5:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-17 6:28 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 6:42 ` david
2007-07-17 7:26 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17 7:34 ` david
2007-07-17 11:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 7:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-13 9:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 0:45 ` Joseph Fannin [this message]
2007-07-14 9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 5:37 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13 9:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 9:38 ` david
2007-07-13 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 14:37 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:13 ` david
2007-07-13 15:12 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 15:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 15:50 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 16:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 18:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 16:48 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 7:12 ` david
2007-07-13 17:32 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 12:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-12 19:09 ` david
2007-07-12 19:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 23:15 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-13 16:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-14 5:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 9:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 10:55 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-14 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 9:30 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-15 10:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 8:13 ` david
2007-07-17 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 12:48 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-17 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-18 0:25 ` david
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