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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption - v4
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:26:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070714202631.GS6975@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1184441406.5284.79.camel@lappy>

* Peter Zijlstra (a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl) wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 14:42 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > Note: (or we could say FIXME)
> > Is we ever want to check migration pending in assembly code, we will have to
> > make sure we test the right thread flag bits on each architectures. Care should
> > also be taken to check that the thread flags used won't trigger false positives
> > in non selective asm thread flag checks.
> > 
> > FIXME (HOTPLUG) :
> > 
> > > >     /* Affinity changed (again). */
> > > >     if (!cpu_isset(dest_cpu, p->cpus_allowed))
> > > >             goto out;
> > > >  
> > > >     on_rq = p->se.on_rq;
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT
> > > > +   if (!on_rq && task_thread_info(p)->migrate_count)
> > > > +           goto out;
> > > > +#endif
> > > 
> > > This means that move_task_off_dead_cpu() will spin until the task will be
> > > scheduled
> > > on the dead CPU. Given that we hold tasklist_lock and irqs are disabled, this
> > > may
> > > never happen.
> > >
> > 
> > Yes. My idea to fix this issue is the following:
> > 
> > If a thread has non zero migrate_count, we should still move it to a
> > different CPU upon hotplug cpu removal, even if this thread resists
> > migration. Care should be taken to send _all_ such threads to the _same_
> > CPU so they don't race for the per-cpu ressources. Does it make sense ?
> > 
> > We would have to keep the CPU affinity of the threads running on the
> > wrong CPU until they end their migrate disabled section, so that we can
> > put them back on their original CPU if it goes back online, otherwise we
> > could end up with concurrent per-cpu variables accesses.
> > 
> > (I'll wait for reply before coding a solution for this CPU HOTPLUG
> > related problem)
> 
> What would, aside from technical issues, be the problem with making
> migration_disable() delay CPU_DOWN until migration_enable()?
> 

Because if we thing a little further, migration disabling could be a
very interesting way to provide cheap per-cpu data structure access to
user-space. But we would not want user-space processes to hold CPU_DOWN
forever...

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-14 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06  6:02 [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-06 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:56   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-11  4:49     ` [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption - v2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-11 16:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-14 18:27         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 19:56           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-14 18:40         ` [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption - v3 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 18:42         ` [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption - v4 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 19:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-14 20:25             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 19:30           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-14 20:26             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-14 20:23           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-14 20:33             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-14 20:42               ` Oleg Nesterov

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