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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
Cc: Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:27:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070716232755.GD11115@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469BFB73.3070105@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 01:12:51AM +0200, Rene Herman wrote:
> On 07/17/2007 01:07 AM, Matt Mackall wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:55:36AM +0200, Rene Herman wrote:
> 
> >>I'm still waiting for larger soft-pages... does anyone in this thread
> >>have a clue on their status?
> >
> >Given that most x86 users won't want anything to do with them, it's not
> >going to help us at all here.
> 
> No idea why not? Is this something you expect, or know, or... ? (and who 
> are users in this context?)

Larger soft pages waste tremendous amounts of memory (mostly in page
cache) for minimal benefit on, say, the typical desktop. While there
are workloads where it's a win, it's probably on a small percentage of
machines.

So it's absolutely no help in fixing our order-1 allocation problem
because we don't want to force large pages on people.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-16 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-07-15 17:17               ` [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...? Bodo Eggert
2007-07-15 17:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32                   ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43                   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37                       ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54                         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53                           ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15                               ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18  0:14                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18  6:39                                   ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39                             ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18  0:22                               ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54                         ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01                           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42                           ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51                             ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34                             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04                               ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07                           ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27                               ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-07-16 23:32                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18  2:38                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19  0:15                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19  0:39                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19  1:33                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19  1:37                                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19  1:56                                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44                                           ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02                                             ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38                                               ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31                                                 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01  3:53                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01  8:11                                                     ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-01 10:04                                                       ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10  4:51                                                         ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10  4:59                                                           ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44                                                         ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10  1:03                                                           ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19  9:23                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19  0:41                                   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19  0:48                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19  1:28                                       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:13                           ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35                               ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40                               ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17  0:57                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14                                   ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 17:45                                       ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18  0:16                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45                           ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17  0:28                             ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06                               ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38                                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19                                   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05                                       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26                       ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39                         ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17  1:00                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45                         ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46                           ` utz lehmann
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2007-07-19 13:37                         ` Bodo Eggert
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2007-07-18 11:09                           ` Nick Craig-Wood
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05   ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09     ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12  3:15       ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12  4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12  4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24   ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13  0:34     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13  2:25       ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13  4:14         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13  9:19           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17             ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19               ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38                 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46                   ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19               ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32                 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32                 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33                   ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12  6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12  6:37   ` David Chinner

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