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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Tsugikazu Shibata <tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com>
Cc: LeoLi@freescale.com, gh@us.ibm.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	kunai@linux-foundation.jp, holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	lf_kernel_messages@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Documentation of kernel messages (Summary)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:06:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707171206.56805.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070716.014642.41651135.tshibata@ab.jp.nec.com>

On Sunday 15 July 2007 12:46:42 pm Tsugikazu Shibata wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:12:35 -0400, rob wrote:
> > On Friday 13 July 2007 9:46:59 pm Tsugikazu Shibata wrote:
> > > > > How about adding;
> > > > > kernel-doc-nano-HOWTO.txt
> > > >
> > > > The problem is, the generated htmdocs are in english.  This file is
> > > > about how to generate (and author) English documentation that won't
> > > > be translated. What's the point of translating the instructions if
> > > > the result won't be translated?
> > >
> > > People (who even in non-native) would better to know and read it such
> > > htmldocs because there are good and important documents even in
> > > English. I thought that translation of this file may help.
> >
> > The english version of htmldocs is generated from the source code.    If
> > translating remotely current versions of htmldocs into other languages
> > was feasible, then the english version wouldn't need to be in the source
> > code in the first place.
> >
> > Translating a document _about_ htmldocs boils down to "Dear non-english
> > speaker: here's something you can't read, nor can you update it either
> > except though your language maintainer."
>
> No, kernel-doc-nano-HOWTO includes explanation of tools to extract the
> document, format of extractable document in source files and so on.
> I thought this file would help non-native people, how to extract or add
> in-kernel extractable documents.

Which will be in english, so why can't the instructions on how to do it be in 
english too?

> I understand that these tools will generate English documents but
> that's OK.

Then the instructions how to do it in english should be ok too.  If they can't 
read the instructions, they won't be able to read the result.

> Such large volume of documents are not easy to translate 
> into other languages.

"Here's how to get a result that will be useless to you."

Why?  What's the point?  I'm not seeing it.

Rob
-- 
"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
  - Ken Thompson.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13 15:06 [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages holzheu
2007-06-13 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 17:11   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-13 17:42   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-13 18:09   ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:11   ` holzheu
2007-06-14  8:47     ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-06-15  8:49   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 17:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-06-13 17:46   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 17:51 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:18   ` holzheu
2007-06-13 18:32     ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:49       ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 18:49       ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14  8:17       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-13 19:04     ` Joe Perches
2007-06-14  2:54       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-14  7:05         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15  8:51       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14  8:31   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-14  9:41   ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 10:38     ` holzheu
2007-06-14 11:47       ` holzheu
2007-06-14 12:26         ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 15:22           ` holzheu
2007-06-15 18:42       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 18:51         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:27           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 20:01           ` Greg KH
2007-06-18 12:55         ` holzheu
2007-06-18 13:12           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-18 13:33             ` Jan Kara
2007-06-18 13:53             ` holzheu
2007-06-19  1:36               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19  8:51                 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 19:24                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 11:31                 ` holzheu
2007-06-19  5:41           ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Kunai, Takashi
2007-06-18 13:11         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-18 15:35           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-19  0:13         ` Tim Bird
2007-06-19  3:52           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 12:40     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-18 13:42       ` holzheu
2007-06-18 14:02         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:48   ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Michael Holzheu
2007-06-25 15:44     ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 18:05       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-27 15:11       ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-09  5:15         ` Kunai, Takashi
2007-07-09  5:36           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-09 16:48             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-09 17:18               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-07-10 16:12                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 12:15                   ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-11 14:26                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-11 18:13                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:32                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 10:53                         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 12:49                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 13:43                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 13:25                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-13 21:10                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-13 18:05                           ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14  3:54                             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-15  1:56                               ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:28                                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-16 19:53                                   ` Rob Landley
2007-08-03 18:11                                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-03 19:32                                       ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04  3:50                                         ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 19:02                                           ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04  3:52                                         ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 18:54                                           ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 20:04                                             ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-06 15:50                                               ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:53                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-12 16:56                         ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 13:53                       ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-12 16:05                         ` [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Rob Landley
2007-07-12 19:52                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-12 20:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13  7:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-13 16:06                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 12:43                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 17:52                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 14:42                               ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 18:12                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 18:50                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 19:11                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 20:25                                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-16  4:40                                     ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-16 21:43                                       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-17  7:19                                         ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-15 18:53                                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:25                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16  9:17                                   ` Dr. Keith G. Bowden
2007-07-16  2:49                                 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-16  3:03                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:24                                   ` Li Yang
2007-07-17 21:06                                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 16:41                         ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-12 17:35                         ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13  2:54                           ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 17:12                             ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14  1:46                               ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-15  2:12                                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:46                                   ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-17 16:06                                     ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-07-17 23:30                                       ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 11:54                           ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:30                             ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-09 18:33               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 16:25                 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 18:54                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 19:53                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17  0:31                   ` Tim Bird
2007-07-17  1:17                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:42                       ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 16:29                     ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10  7:59               ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-10  6:38             ` Dave Young
2007-07-09  7:01           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 22:59             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10  6:15               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 18:10       ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Theodore Tso
2007-07-09 22:12         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-10 16:50         ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:23 ` [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages David Miller
2007-06-13 18:27   ` holzheu

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