From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>,
Ray Lee <ray-lk@madrabbit.org>, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:15:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070719001539.GC29728@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070716232755.GD11115@waste.org>
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 06:27:55PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> So it's absolutely no help in fixing our order-1 allocation problem
> because we don't want to force large pages on people.
Using kmalloc(8k) instead of alloc_page() doesn't sound a too big deal
and that will solve the problem. The whole idea is to avoid the memcpy
+ pte mangling of defrag while hopefully lowering cpu utilization in
allocations at the same time.
About 4k stacks I was generally against them, much better to fail in
fork than to risk corruption. The per-irq stack part is great feature
instead (too bad it wasn't enabled for the safer 8k stacks).
Failing in a do_no_page with variable order page size allocation is a
fatal event (the task will be killed), failing in fork is graceful,
userland can retry etc... Fork can fail for different reasons, ulimit
itself is the most likely source of fork failures. I don't think the
8k stacks have ever been a problem, yes you will run out of stack
sooner (sooner also because the 4k stacks takes less memory) but
nothing is terribly wrong if the 8k allocation fails.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-19 0:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-07-15 17:17 ` [PATCH][RFC] 4K stacks default, not a debug thing any more...? Bodo Eggert
2007-07-15 17:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-15 18:32 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-15 17:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 13:43 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:37 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 22:53 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:15 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-18 0:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 6:39 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 17:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 23:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-18 0:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 22:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:42 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-19 19:34 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 20:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 22:55 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:07 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 2:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 16:54 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 17:17 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 0:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2007-07-19 0:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 1:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 1:37 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 1:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 11:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 11:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 13:02 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-27 18:31 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-01 3:53 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-08-01 8:11 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-01 10:04 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-10 4:51 ` Dan Merillat
2007-08-10 4:59 ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 13:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-08-01 15:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 1:03 ` Dan Merillat
2007-07-19 9:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-27 13:03 ` Eric Sandeen
2007-07-27 17:18 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-07-19 0:41 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-19 0:48 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 1:28 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-16 23:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:35 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-16 23:40 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-17 0:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 16:14 ` Shawn Bohrer
2007-07-17 16:52 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 17:45 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-18 0:16 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-16 23:45 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 0:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 10:06 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 14:38 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 23:19 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-07-19 17:20 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-17 23:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-19 17:05 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-16 23:26 ` utz lehmann
2007-07-16 23:39 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-07-17 1:00 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-17 14:45 ` John Stoffel
2007-07-17 23:46 ` utz lehmann
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2007-07-18 11:09 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-18 8:37 ` Nick Craig-Wood
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2007-07-19 13:37 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-11 17:16 Jesper Juhl
2007-07-11 17:54 ` Zan Lynx
2007-07-11 20:05 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-11 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2007-07-12 3:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-07-12 4:16 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 4:59 ` Ray Lee
2007-07-12 20:24 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 0:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 2:25 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-07-13 4:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-13 9:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-13 13:20 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-14 19:17 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-14 22:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 23:38 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-17 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:19 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33 ` Phillip Susi
2007-07-14 19:42 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-12 6:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-12 6:37 ` David Chinner
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