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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: patches@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock (cmpxchg8b)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:18:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070720041839.GA11217@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070720034757.GA9093@Krystal>

* Mathieu Desnoyers (compudj@krystal.dyndns.org) wrote:
 
> I just want to rectify a detail: local_t uses type "long", which is 32
> bits on x86_32 and 64 bits on x86_64.
> 
> Using a cmpxchg8b on i386 seems to require the LOCK prefix to be taken,
> so it may degrate performances too much. Therefore, you may prefer to
> stay with cli/sti on i386, but using a local cmpxchg would make sense on
> x86_64.
> 
> A side-note: I really dislike the new cmpxchg behavior when a too
> large value is passed to it. If we pass a uint64_t * as first argument
> to cmpxchg or cmpxchg_local on i386, it just fails silently. Before, a
> linker error was produced, which required the kernel to be compiled with
> -O2 as side-effect, but at least there wasn't any silent failure...
> 
> Mathieu
> 

Actually, about the i386 case, I am trying to get my head around the
locked cmpxchg8b issue.

I just implemented what would look like something that could be added to
the standard cmpxchg on i386:

union pack64 {
        u64 value;
        struct {
                u32 low, high;
        };
};

static inline u64 cmpxchg8b(u64 * ptr, u64 old, u64 new)
{
        union pack64 oldu;
        union pack64 newu;
        union pack64 prevu;

        oldu.value = old;
        newu.value = new;

        __asm__ __volatile__("cmpxchg8b (%6)\n\t"
                             : "=d"(prevu.high), "=a" (prevu.low)
                             : "0" (oldu.high), "1" (oldu.low),
                               "c" (newu.high), "b" (newu.low),
                               "m"(*__xg(ptr))
                             : "memory");
        return prevu.value;
}

I tried it with and without the LOCK prefix on my Pentium 4.

Locked cmpxchg8b : 90 cycles
Non locked cmpxchg8b: 30 cycles
sti: 166 cycles
cli: 159 cycles

So, hrm, even if we use the locked version, it is still much faster than
the sti/cli. I am thoughtful about the comment in asm-i386/system.h:

/*
 * The semantics of XCHGCMP8B are a bit strange, this is why
 * there is a loop and the loading of %%eax and %%edx has to
 * be inside. This inlines well in most cases, the cached
 * cost is around ~38 cycles. (in the future we might want
 * to do an SIMD/3DNOW!/MMX/FPU 64-bit store here, but that
 * might have an implicit FPU-save as a cost, so it's not
 * clear which path to go.)
 *
 * cmpxchg8b must be used with the lock prefix here to allow 
 * the instruction to be executed atomically, see page 3-102
 * of the instruction set reference 24319102.pdf. We need
 * the reader side to see the coherent 64bit value.
 */

I just re-read 24319102.pdf page 3-102. Here is what seems to be the
reference used:

"This instruction can be used with a LOCK prefix to allow the
instruction to be executed atomi cally. To simplify the interface to the
processor’s bus, the destination operand receives a write cycle without
regard to the result of the comparison. The destination operand is
written back if the comparison fails; otherwise, the source operand is
written into the destination. (The processor never produces a locked
read without also producing a locked write.)" (page 3-102)

However, we find _exactly_ the same comment about the cmpxchg
instruction:

"This instruction can be used with a LOCK prefix to allow the
instruction to be executed atomi cally. To simplify the interface to the
processor’s bus, the destination operand receives a write cycle without
regard to the result of the comparison. The destination operand is
written back if the comparison fails; otherwise, the source operand is
written into the destination. (The processor never produces a locked
read without also producing a locked write.)" (page 3-100)

Since we use the standard cmpxchg without lock prefix and consider it
atomic wrt the local CPU, I wonder why we could not do the same for
cmpxchg8b ? Any idea ?

It could then give you 8 bytes cmpxchg atomical wrt the local CPU for 30
cycles, which is really not so bad! Or is there any undocumented
funkyness about cmpxchg8b I should be aware of ?

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-20  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19  9:54 [PATCH] [0/58] First batch of x86 patches for .23 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [1/58] x86: Always flush pages in change_page_attr Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:15   ` [patches] " Jan Beulich
2007-08-06 10:36     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:49       ` Jan Beulich
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [2/58] x86_64: Tell gcc to only align stack to 8 bytes Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 11:50   ` Serge Belyshev
2007-07-19 12:06     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:42   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [3/58] x86_64: asm/ptrace.h needs linux/compiler.h Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [4/58] x86_64: Don't rely on a unique IO-APIC ID Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [5/58] x86_64: Report the pending irq if available in smp_affinity Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [6/58] x86_64: Use LOCAL_DISTANCE and REMOTE_DISTANCE in x86_64 ACPI code Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [7/58] x86_64: various cleanups in NUMA scan node Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:15   ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 17:21     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:38       ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 20:00         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 21:01     ` David Rientjes
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [8/58] x86_64: Use string instruction memcpy/memset on AMD Fam10 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 16:43   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-19 17:00     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [9/58] x86_64: Always use builtin memcpy on gcc 4.3 Andi Kleen
2007-07-21 23:16   ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-21 23:27     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-22  0:29     ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [10/58] i386: Move all simple string operations out of line Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [11/58] x86: Support __attribute__((__cold__)) in gcc 4.3 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [12/58] x86_64: Add vDSO for x86-64 with gettimeofday/clock_gettime/getcpu Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 16:25   ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-21 18:45     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 18:40       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [13/58] x86: Separate checking of unsynchronized and unstable TSC Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [14/58] x86_64: Add on_cpu_single Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 11:09   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-19 12:07     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 16:51   ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:13     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:15       ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:22         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:31           ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:38             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:43               ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 18:00                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 18:00                   ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-20  3:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  3:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  4:18         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-20  5:07           ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock (cmpxchg8b) Nick Piggin
2007-07-20  5:47             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  8:27       ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 14:12         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 14:39           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 15:14           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 15:22             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 16:49             ` [PATCH] 80386 and 80486 cmpxchg64 and cmpxchg64_local fallback Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [16/58] x86_64: Use new shared sched_clock in x86-64 too Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [17/58] i386: Add L3 cache support to AMD CPUID4 emulation Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 17:00   ` [patches] " Andreas Herrmann
2007-07-20 17:15   ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [18/58] x86_64: remove extra extern declaring about dmi_ioremap Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [19/58] x86_64: Don't use softirq save locks in smp_call_function Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 12:16   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-19 12:19     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [20/58] x86: Always probe the NMI watchdog Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:24   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-19 10:42     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [21/58] i386: Reserve the right performance counter for the Intel PerfMon " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:21   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-19 10:45     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [22/58] x86_64: hpet tsc calibration fix broken smi detection logic Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [23/58] i386: remove pit_interrupt_hook Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [24/58] x86_64: Untangle asm/hpet.h from asm/timex.h Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [25/58] x86_64: use generic cmos update Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [26/58] x86_64: Use generic xtime init Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [27/58] x86_64: Remove dead code and other janitor work in tsc.c Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [28/58] x86_64: Fix APIC typo Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [29/58] x86_64: fiuxp pt_reqs leftovers Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [30/58] x86: share hpet.h with i386 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [31/58] x86_64: apic.c coding style janitor work Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [32/58] x86_64: time.c white space wreckage cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [33/58] x86_64: Avoid too many remote cpu references due to /proc/stat Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-19 10:41     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:55       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [34/58] x86_64: ia32entry adjustments Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-06 10:43     ` Jan Beulich
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [35/58] i386: allow debuggers to access the vsyscall page with compat vDSO Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [36/58] x86_64: minor exception trace variables cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [37/58] x86_64: remove unused variable maxcpus Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [38/58] i386: smp-alt-once option is only useful with HOTPLUG_CPU Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [39/58] i386: minor nx handling adjustment Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [40/58] i386: remapped_pgdat_init() static Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [41/58] i386: arch/i386/kernel/i8253.c should #include <asm/timer.h> Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [42/58] i386: timer_irq_works() static again Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [43/58] x86_64: Quicklist support for x86_64 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [44/58] x86_64: extract helper function from e820_register_active_regions Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [45/58] x86_64: fake pxm-to-node mapping for fake numa Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [46/58] x86_64: fake apicid_to_node " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [47/58] i386: insert unclaimed MMCONFIG resources Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [48/58] x86_64: O_EXCL on /dev/mcelog Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [49/58] x86_64: support poll() " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [50/58] x86_64: mcelog tolerant level cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [51/58] i386: fix machine rebooting Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [52/58] i386: fix section mismatch warnings in mtrr Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [53/58] x86: PM_TRACE support Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [54/58] x86: Make Alt-SysRq-p display the debug register contents Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [55/58] i386: add reference to the arguments Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [56/58] x86: round_jiffies() for i386 and x86-64 non-critical/corrected MCE polling Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [57/58] x86_64: check remote IRR bit before migrating level triggered irq Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [58/58] x86: remove support for the Rise CPU Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:48     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-19 11:13       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 12:03         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:56           ` Jeff Garzik

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