From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: patches@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock (cmpxchg8b)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:18:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070720041839.GA11217@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070720034757.GA9093@Krystal>
* Mathieu Desnoyers (compudj@krystal.dyndns.org) wrote:
> I just want to rectify a detail: local_t uses type "long", which is 32
> bits on x86_32 and 64 bits on x86_64.
>
> Using a cmpxchg8b on i386 seems to require the LOCK prefix to be taken,
> so it may degrate performances too much. Therefore, you may prefer to
> stay with cli/sti on i386, but using a local cmpxchg would make sense on
> x86_64.
>
> A side-note: I really dislike the new cmpxchg behavior when a too
> large value is passed to it. If we pass a uint64_t * as first argument
> to cmpxchg or cmpxchg_local on i386, it just fails silently. Before, a
> linker error was produced, which required the kernel to be compiled with
> -O2 as side-effect, but at least there wasn't any silent failure...
>
> Mathieu
>
Actually, about the i386 case, I am trying to get my head around the
locked cmpxchg8b issue.
I just implemented what would look like something that could be added to
the standard cmpxchg on i386:
union pack64 {
u64 value;
struct {
u32 low, high;
};
};
static inline u64 cmpxchg8b(u64 * ptr, u64 old, u64 new)
{
union pack64 oldu;
union pack64 newu;
union pack64 prevu;
oldu.value = old;
newu.value = new;
__asm__ __volatile__("cmpxchg8b (%6)\n\t"
: "=d"(prevu.high), "=a" (prevu.low)
: "0" (oldu.high), "1" (oldu.low),
"c" (newu.high), "b" (newu.low),
"m"(*__xg(ptr))
: "memory");
return prevu.value;
}
I tried it with and without the LOCK prefix on my Pentium 4.
Locked cmpxchg8b : 90 cycles
Non locked cmpxchg8b: 30 cycles
sti: 166 cycles
cli: 159 cycles
So, hrm, even if we use the locked version, it is still much faster than
the sti/cli. I am thoughtful about the comment in asm-i386/system.h:
/*
* The semantics of XCHGCMP8B are a bit strange, this is why
* there is a loop and the loading of %%eax and %%edx has to
* be inside. This inlines well in most cases, the cached
* cost is around ~38 cycles. (in the future we might want
* to do an SIMD/3DNOW!/MMX/FPU 64-bit store here, but that
* might have an implicit FPU-save as a cost, so it's not
* clear which path to go.)
*
* cmpxchg8b must be used with the lock prefix here to allow
* the instruction to be executed atomically, see page 3-102
* of the instruction set reference 24319102.pdf. We need
* the reader side to see the coherent 64bit value.
*/
I just re-read 24319102.pdf page 3-102. Here is what seems to be the
reference used:
"This instruction can be used with a LOCK prefix to allow the
instruction to be executed atomi cally. To simplify the interface to the
processor’s bus, the destination operand receives a write cycle without
regard to the result of the comparison. The destination operand is
written back if the comparison fails; otherwise, the source operand is
written into the destination. (The processor never produces a locked
read without also producing a locked write.)" (page 3-102)
However, we find _exactly_ the same comment about the cmpxchg
instruction:
"This instruction can be used with a LOCK prefix to allow the
instruction to be executed atomi cally. To simplify the interface to the
processor’s bus, the destination operand receives a write cycle without
regard to the result of the comparison. The destination operand is
written back if the comparison fails; otherwise, the source operand is
written into the destination. (The processor never produces a locked
read without also producing a locked write.)" (page 3-100)
Since we use the standard cmpxchg without lock prefix and consider it
atomic wrt the local CPU, I wonder why we could not do the same for
cmpxchg8b ? Any idea ?
It could then give you 8 bytes cmpxchg atomical wrt the local CPU for 30
cycles, which is really not so bad! Or is there any undocumented
funkyness about cmpxchg8b I should be aware of ?
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
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2007-07-19 9:54 [PATCH] [0/58] First batch of x86 patches for .23 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [1/58] x86: Always flush pages in change_page_attr Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:15 ` [patches] " Jan Beulich
2007-08-06 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:49 ` Jan Beulich
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [2/58] x86_64: Tell gcc to only align stack to 8 bytes Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 11:50 ` Serge Belyshev
2007-07-19 12:06 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:42 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [3/58] x86_64: asm/ptrace.h needs linux/compiler.h Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [4/58] x86_64: Don't rely on a unique IO-APIC ID Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [5/58] x86_64: Report the pending irq if available in smp_affinity Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [6/58] x86_64: Use LOCAL_DISTANCE and REMOTE_DISTANCE in x86_64 ACPI code Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [7/58] x86_64: various cleanups in NUMA scan node Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 17:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:38 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 20:00 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 21:01 ` David Rientjes
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [8/58] x86_64: Use string instruction memcpy/memset on AMD Fam10 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 16:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-19 17:00 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [9/58] x86_64: Always use builtin memcpy on gcc 4.3 Andi Kleen
2007-07-21 23:16 ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-21 23:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-22 0:29 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [10/58] i386: Move all simple string operations out of line Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [11/58] x86: Support __attribute__((__cold__)) in gcc 4.3 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [12/58] x86_64: Add vDSO for x86-64 with gettimeofday/clock_gettime/getcpu Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 16:25 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-21 18:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 18:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [13/58] x86: Separate checking of unsynchronized and unstable TSC Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [14/58] x86_64: Add on_cpu_single Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 11:09 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-19 12:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:54 ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 16:51 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:15 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:31 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:38 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:43 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 18:00 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 18:00 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-20 3:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 3:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 4:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-20 5:07 ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock (cmpxchg8b) Nick Piggin
2007-07-20 5:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 8:27 ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 14:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 14:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 15:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 15:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 16:49 ` [PATCH] 80386 and 80486 cmpxchg64 and cmpxchg64_local fallback Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [16/58] x86_64: Use new shared sched_clock in x86-64 too Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [17/58] i386: Add L3 cache support to AMD CPUID4 emulation Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 17:00 ` [patches] " Andreas Herrmann
2007-07-20 17:15 ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [18/58] x86_64: remove extra extern declaring about dmi_ioremap Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [19/58] x86_64: Don't use softirq save locks in smp_call_function Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 12:16 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-19 12:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [20/58] x86: Always probe the NMI watchdog Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:24 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-19 10:42 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [21/58] i386: Reserve the right performance counter for the Intel PerfMon " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:21 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-19 10:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [22/58] x86_64: hpet tsc calibration fix broken smi detection logic Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [23/58] i386: remove pit_interrupt_hook Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [24/58] x86_64: Untangle asm/hpet.h from asm/timex.h Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [25/58] x86_64: use generic cmos update Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [26/58] x86_64: Use generic xtime init Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [27/58] x86_64: Remove dead code and other janitor work in tsc.c Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [28/58] x86_64: Fix APIC typo Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [29/58] x86_64: fiuxp pt_reqs leftovers Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [30/58] x86: share hpet.h with i386 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [31/58] x86_64: apic.c coding style janitor work Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [32/58] x86_64: time.c white space wreckage cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [33/58] x86_64: Avoid too many remote cpu references due to /proc/stat Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-19 10:41 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [34/58] x86_64: ia32entry adjustments Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-06 10:43 ` Jan Beulich
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [35/58] i386: allow debuggers to access the vsyscall page with compat vDSO Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [36/58] x86_64: minor exception trace variables cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [37/58] x86_64: remove unused variable maxcpus Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [38/58] i386: smp-alt-once option is only useful with HOTPLUG_CPU Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [39/58] i386: minor nx handling adjustment Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [40/58] i386: remapped_pgdat_init() static Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [41/58] i386: arch/i386/kernel/i8253.c should #include <asm/timer.h> Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [42/58] i386: timer_irq_works() static again Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [43/58] x86_64: Quicklist support for x86_64 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [44/58] x86_64: extract helper function from e820_register_active_regions Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [45/58] x86_64: fake pxm-to-node mapping for fake numa Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [46/58] x86_64: fake apicid_to_node " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [47/58] i386: insert unclaimed MMCONFIG resources Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [48/58] x86_64: O_EXCL on /dev/mcelog Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [49/58] x86_64: support poll() " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [50/58] x86_64: mcelog tolerant level cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [51/58] i386: fix machine rebooting Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [52/58] i386: fix section mismatch warnings in mtrr Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [53/58] x86: PM_TRACE support Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [54/58] x86: Make Alt-SysRq-p display the debug register contents Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [55/58] i386: add reference to the arguments Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [56/58] x86: round_jiffies() for i386 and x86-64 non-critical/corrected MCE polling Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [57/58] x86_64: check remote IRR bit before migrating level triggered irq Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 9:55 ` [PATCH] [58/58] x86: remove support for the Rise CPU Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:48 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-19 11:13 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 12:03 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:56 ` Jeff Garzik
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