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From: Uwe Hermann <uwe@hermann-uwe.de>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jonathan Campbell <jon@nerdgrounds.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:27:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070720072730.GN3700@greenwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718204102.GM11115@waste.org>

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On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 03:41:02PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 10:10:43PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > 
> > I was waiting for someone to make that "point" ...
> > 
> > > 
> > > Every byte you can shave off the compressed kernel image is another
> > > byte you can use for userspace on your FLASH.
> > 
> > Now let's see if that 1MB 386 contains any flash at all. Guesses?  
> 
> I've certainly worked on such devices. I expect there are more of them
> still in service, than, say, Voyagers.
> 
> I haven't looked at whether this CPUID stuff is worth the trouble, I'm
> just responding to your argument about init code. Init code is
> definitely not free. It takes up storage space, which can be extremely
> valuable.

Ack.

Some people are putting Linux kernels in the "BIOS" (i.e. ROM chip) when
using LinuxBIOS (www.linuxbios.org). It _does_ make a lot of difference
there how big the kernel is. At the moment you can't do that with
anything smaller than a 1 MB chip. But if people could use 512 KB chips
because the kernel is small enough that would sure be a great thing.

In such scenarios every single byte matters.


Uwe.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-20  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-15 21:00 Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels Jonathan Campbell
2007-07-15 21:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 22:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 23:12     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:14       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:13         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-15 23:28           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 10:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-17 19:30   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18  2:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 15:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 18:20     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:29       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:38         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:45           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:47             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` John Stoffel
2007-07-18 18:33     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-18 18:42       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:44       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 19:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-21 10:09         ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-18 19:41     ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 19:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 21:04           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 22:17             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-30 17:59             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-18 20:41         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-20  7:27           ` Uwe Hermann [this message]
2007-07-20  7:35             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-24 14:49               ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-24 20:50                 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:56                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-25  0:55                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:45     ` Willy Tarreau
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     [not found]       ` <8HlHr-7vR-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-16 13:12         ` Bodo Eggert

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