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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: patches@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:22:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070720152255.GB511@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707201714.16811.ak@suse.de>

* Andi Kleen (ak@suse.de) wrote:
> 
> > So if, after this, we run tsc_sched_clock() with an unstable TSC, we
> > read a last_val containing the interrupt's MSB and the last_val LSB. It
> > can particularity hurt if we are around a 32 bits overflow, because time
> > could "jump" forward of about 1.43 seconds on a 3 GHz system.
> > 
> > So I guess we need synchronization on the fast path, and therefore using
> > cmpxchg_local on x86_64
> 
> On x86-64 the 64bit write is atomic against interrupts.
> 
> You're right 32bit has a problem though. I'm not too happy about 
> cmpxchg though because that wouldn't work on some CPUs.
> 

Which CPUs ? 386 ? do they even have a cycle counter ?

Please have a look at my reply to this email for the x86_64 problematic
case. This problematic case also applies to i386 (non atomicity of tsc
read vs write to memory).

> I wonder if we can just get away with using a 32bit value on i386.
> Just for the purpose of keeping the value monotonic it should be good
> enough. Will think about it.
> 

Yes, it could work. In this case you have to be aware that the 32 LSBs
of the TSC will overflow every ~ 1s and, in order to be sure to be able
to detect the overflow, you have to do at least 1 TSC read per second
(more precisely per 32 LSB overflow period).

> Thanks for the review.
> 

YW,

Mathieu

> -Andi
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-20 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19  9:54 [PATCH] [0/58] First batch of x86 patches for .23 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [1/58] x86: Always flush pages in change_page_attr Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:15   ` [patches] " Jan Beulich
2007-08-06 10:36     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:49       ` Jan Beulich
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [2/58] x86_64: Tell gcc to only align stack to 8 bytes Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 11:50   ` Serge Belyshev
2007-07-19 12:06     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:42   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [3/58] x86_64: asm/ptrace.h needs linux/compiler.h Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [4/58] x86_64: Don't rely on a unique IO-APIC ID Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [5/58] x86_64: Report the pending irq if available in smp_affinity Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [6/58] x86_64: Use LOCAL_DISTANCE and REMOTE_DISTANCE in x86_64 ACPI code Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [7/58] x86_64: various cleanups in NUMA scan node Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:15   ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 17:21     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:38       ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19 20:00         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 21:01     ` David Rientjes
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [8/58] x86_64: Use string instruction memcpy/memset on AMD Fam10 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 16:43   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-19 17:00     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [9/58] x86_64: Always use builtin memcpy on gcc 4.3 Andi Kleen
2007-07-21 23:16   ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-21 23:27     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-22  0:29     ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [10/58] i386: Move all simple string operations out of line Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [11/58] x86: Support __attribute__((__cold__)) in gcc 4.3 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [12/58] x86_64: Add vDSO for x86-64 with gettimeofday/clock_gettime/getcpu Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 16:25   ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-21 18:45     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 18:40       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [13/58] x86: Separate checking of unsynchronized and unstable TSC Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [14/58] x86_64: Add on_cpu_single Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 11:09   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-19 12:07     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:54 ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 16:51   ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:13     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:15       ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:22         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:31           ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 17:38             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 17:43               ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-19 18:00                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 18:00                   ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-20  3:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  3:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  4:18         ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock (cmpxchg8b) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  5:07           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-20  5:47             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20  8:27       ` [PATCH] [15/58] i386: Rewrite sched_clock Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 14:12         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 14:39           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-20 15:14           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 15:22             ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-20 16:49             ` [PATCH] 80386 and 80486 cmpxchg64 and cmpxchg64_local fallback Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [16/58] x86_64: Use new shared sched_clock in x86-64 too Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [17/58] i386: Add L3 cache support to AMD CPUID4 emulation Andi Kleen
2007-07-20 17:00   ` [patches] " Andreas Herrmann
2007-07-20 17:15   ` Andreas Herrmann
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [18/58] x86_64: remove extra extern declaring about dmi_ioremap Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [19/58] x86_64: Don't use softirq save locks in smp_call_function Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 12:16   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-19 12:19     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [20/58] x86: Always probe the NMI watchdog Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:24   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-19 10:42     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [21/58] i386: Reserve the right performance counter for the Intel PerfMon " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:21   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-07-19 10:45     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [22/58] x86_64: hpet tsc calibration fix broken smi detection logic Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [23/58] i386: remove pit_interrupt_hook Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [24/58] x86_64: Untangle asm/hpet.h from asm/timex.h Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [25/58] x86_64: use generic cmos update Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [26/58] x86_64: Use generic xtime init Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [27/58] x86_64: Remove dead code and other janitor work in tsc.c Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [28/58] x86_64: Fix APIC typo Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [29/58] x86_64: fiuxp pt_reqs leftovers Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [30/58] x86: share hpet.h with i386 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [31/58] x86_64: apic.c coding style janitor work Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [32/58] x86_64: time.c white space wreckage cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [33/58] x86_64: Avoid too many remote cpu references due to /proc/stat Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-07-19 10:41     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:55       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [34/58] x86_64: ia32entry adjustments Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:46   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-06 10:43     ` Jan Beulich
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [35/58] i386: allow debuggers to access the vsyscall page with compat vDSO Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [36/58] x86_64: minor exception trace variables cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [37/58] x86_64: remove unused variable maxcpus Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [38/58] i386: smp-alt-once option is only useful with HOTPLUG_CPU Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [39/58] i386: minor nx handling adjustment Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [40/58] i386: remapped_pgdat_init() static Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [41/58] i386: arch/i386/kernel/i8253.c should #include <asm/timer.h> Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [42/58] i386: timer_irq_works() static again Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [43/58] x86_64: Quicklist support for x86_64 Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [44/58] x86_64: extract helper function from e820_register_active_regions Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [45/58] x86_64: fake pxm-to-node mapping for fake numa Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [46/58] x86_64: fake apicid_to_node " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [47/58] i386: insert unclaimed MMCONFIG resources Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [48/58] x86_64: O_EXCL on /dev/mcelog Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [49/58] x86_64: support poll() " Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [50/58] x86_64: mcelog tolerant level cleanup Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [51/58] i386: fix machine rebooting Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [52/58] i386: fix section mismatch warnings in mtrr Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [53/58] x86: PM_TRACE support Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [54/58] x86: Make Alt-SysRq-p display the debug register contents Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [55/58] i386: add reference to the arguments Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [56/58] x86: round_jiffies() for i386 and x86-64 non-critical/corrected MCE polling Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [57/58] x86_64: check remote IRR bit before migrating level triggered irq Andi Kleen
2007-07-19  9:55 ` [PATCH] [58/58] x86: remove support for the Rise CPU Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 10:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 10:48     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-19 11:13       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-19 12:03         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-19 14:56           ` Jeff Garzik

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