From: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Tim Pepper <lnxninja@us.ibm.com>, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] readahead: scale max readahead size depending on memory size
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:53:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <385097985.30112@ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
Message-ID: <20070722095313.GA8136@mail.ustc.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1185094751.20032.221.camel@twins>
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 10:59:11AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 16:45 +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> > How about the following rules?
> > - limit it under 1MB: we have to consider latencies
>
> readahead is done async and we have these cond_resched() things
> sprinkled all over, no?
Yeah, it should not be a big problem.
> > - make them alignment-friendly, i.e. 128K, 256K, 512K, 1M.
>
> Would that actually matter? but yeah, that seems like a sane suggestion.
> roundup_pow_of_two() comes to mind.
E.g. RAID stride size, and the max_sectors_kb.
Typically they are power-of-two.
> > My original plan is to simply do the following:
> >
> > - #define VM_MAX_READAHEAD 128 /* kbytes */
> > + #define VM_MAX_READAHEAD 512 /* kbytes */
>
> Yeah, the trouble I have with that is that it might adversely affect
> tiny systems (although the trash detection might mitigate that impact)
I'm also OK with the scaling up scheme. It's reasonable.
> > I'd like to post some numbers to back-up the discussion:
> >
> > readahead readahead
> > size miss
> > 128K 38%
> > 512K 45%
> > 1024K 49%
> >
> > The numbers are measured on a fresh booted KDE desktop.
> >
> > The majority misses come from the larger mmap read-arounds.
>
> the mmap code never gets into readahead unless madvise(MADV_SEQUENTIAL)
> is used afaik.
Sadly mmap read-around reuses the same readahead size.
- for read-around, VM_MAX_READAHEAD is the _real_ readahead size
- for readahead, VM_MAX_READAHEAD is the _max_ readahead size
If we simply increasing VM_MAX_READAHEAD, tiny systems can be
immediately hurt by large read-arounds. That's the problem.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-22 9:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-21 21:00 [PATCH 0/3] readahead drop behind and size adjustment Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 21:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] readahead: drop behind Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 20:29 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-21 20:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 20:59 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-21 21:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-25 3:55 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-21 21:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] readahead: fadvise drop behind controls Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-21 21:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] readahead: scale max readahead size depending on memory size Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-22 8:24 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-22 8:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-22 8:50 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-22 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-22 16:44 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-23 10:04 ` Jörn Engel
2007-07-23 10:11 ` Jens Axboe
2007-07-23 22:44 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-22 23:52 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-23 5:22 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20070722084526.GB6317@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 8:45 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070722095313.GA8136@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 9:53 ` Fengguang Wu [this message]
[not found] ` <20070722023923.GA6438@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 2:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] readahead drop behind and size adjustment Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 2:44 ` Dave Jones
[not found] ` <20070722081010.GA6317@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 8:10 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070722082923.GA7790@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-22 8:29 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-22 8:33 ` Rusty Russell
2007-07-22 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-07-23 9:00 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20070723142457.GA10130@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-23 14:24 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-23 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20070724004728.GA8026@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-07-24 0:47 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-07-24 1:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-24 8:50 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-07-24 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 4:35 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 6:18 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 7:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-25 7:48 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 15:36 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-25 15:33 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-29 7:44 ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-07-25 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
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