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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Uwe Hermann <uwe@hermann-uwe.de>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Jonathan Campbell <jon@nerdgrounds.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:56:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070724225633.GA5444@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86802c440707241350o4e5d2d24w654c935fb2972b54@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 01:50:35PM -0700, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> On 7/24/07, Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no> wrote:
>> Andi Kleen wrote:
>> >> Some people are putting Linux kernels in the "BIOS" (i.e. ROM chip) 
>> when
>> >> using LinuxBIOS (www.linuxbios.org). It _does_ make a lot of difference
>> >> there how big the kernel is. At the moment you can't do that with
>> >> anything smaller than a 1 MB chip. But if people could use 512 KB chips
>> >> because the kernel is small enough that would sure be a great thing.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I'm sure it would be possibel to save a lot of text size. But I don't
>> > think removing the relatively small CPUID code is the right way.
>> > That is just a big maintenance issue for little gain.
>> >
>> Well - anyone compiling linux for BIOS usage is targetting
>> a single machine.  So an ability to target a single machine is useful,
>> i.e. run the CPUID at compile-time, put the answer in a constant/macro,
>> let the optimizer prune the alternatives. :-)
>
> we are using AMD64 + LinuxBIOS + Kernel (without acpi) + kexec to load
> final kernel.
> So we can use drivers in kernel for any media (SCSI, SATA, IB,...),
> not like EFI need every driver re-porting. and We could use KVM in
> kernel to load other OS if needed.
>
> The problem is Kernel is getting bigger and bigger. and old Tiny
> kernel is stopping at 2.6.18...
>...

Please send:
- the .config for the last kernel small enough
- your size limit
- your gcc version
and I'll look at this.

> YH

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-24 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-15 21:00 Patches for REALLY TINY 386 kernels Jonathan Campbell
2007-07-15 21:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 22:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 23:12     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:14       ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:13         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-07-15 23:28           ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-15 23:05 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-15 23:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 10:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-17 19:30   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18  2:33 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 15:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 18:20     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:29       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:38         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 18:45           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:47             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` John Stoffel
2007-07-18 18:33     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-18 18:42       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-18 18:44       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 19:00       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-21 10:09         ` Oleg Verych
2007-07-18 19:41     ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-18 19:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 20:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-18 21:04           ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-18 22:17             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-30 17:59             ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-07-18 20:41         ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-20  7:27           ` Uwe Hermann
2007-07-20  7:35             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-24 14:49               ` Helge Hafting
2007-07-24 20:50                 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:56                   ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-07-25  0:55                     ` Yinghai Lu
2007-07-24 22:45     ` Willy Tarreau
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2007-07-16 13:12         ` Bodo Eggert

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