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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@sw.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove CTL_UNNUMBERED
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:52:35 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070727145235.GC6924@localhost.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m13azbulhf.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:24:12AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@sw.ru> writes:
> 
> > CTL_UNNUMBERED is unneeded, because it expands to
> >
> > 	.ctl_name = 0
> >
> > The same effect can be achieved by skipping .ctl_name initialization,
> > saving one line per sysctl.
> >
> > Update docs and headers telling people to not add CTL_ numbers and
> > giving example.
> >
> > This is probably all we can do to stop the flow of new CTL_ numbers,
> > because most of sysctls are copy-pasted. CTL_UNNUMBERED doesn't solve
> > this problem at all.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@sw.ru>
> 
> Nack.  Not unless you update the documentation and explanations
> properly.

They are left in place:

	Assigning binary sysctl numbers is an endless source of conflicts in
	sysctl.h, breaking of the user space ABI (because of those conflicts),
	and maintenance problems.  A complete pass through all of the sysctl
	users revealed multiple instances where the sysctl binary interface
	was broken and had gone undetected for years.

> The important part is that we stop assigning binary numbers.  You
> are removing part of the description of why we can not assign bianry
> numbers and how that is important.

You want me to rewrite that paragraph actually mentioning
CTL_UNNUMBERED?

> CTL_UNNUMBERED may be an irritant to you but as for actually using the
> code I have look and it is about 6 of 1 half dozen of the other.

Sorry, -EPARSE.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-27 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-26 16:45 [PATCH] Remove CTL_UNNUMBERED Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-26 17:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-27 14:52   ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2007-08-06 12:45     ` [PATCH 2/2] sysctl: remove CTL_UNNUMBERED Alexey Dobriyan
2007-08-09 19:44       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-09 19:50       ` [PATCH 1/3] sysctl core: Stop using the unnecessary ctl_table typedef Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-09 19:52         ` [PATCH 2/3] sysctl: Factor out sysctl_data Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-09 20:09           ` [PATCH 3/3] sysctl: Error on bad sysctl tables Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:49             ` [PATCH 01/10] sysctl: Update sysctl_check_table Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:51               ` [PATCH 02/10] sysct mqueue: Remove the binary sysctl numbers Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:53                 ` [PATCH 03/10] sysctl: Remove binary sysctl support where it clearly doesn't work Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:56                   ` [PATCH 04/10] sysctl: Fix neighbour table sysctls Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:57                     ` [PATCH 05/10] sysctl: ipv6 route flushing (kill binary path) Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:58                       ` [PATCH 06/10] sysctl: Remove broken sunrpc debug binary sysctls Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  0:59                         ` [PATCH 07/10] sysctl: x86_64 remove unnecessary binary paths Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  1:01                           ` [PATCH 08/10] sysctl: Remove broken cdrom binary sysctls Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  1:02                             ` [PATCH 09/10] sysctl: ipv4 remove binary sysctl paths where they are broken Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  1:03                               ` [PATCH 10/10] sysctl: Remove the binary interface for aio-nr, aio-max-nr, acpi_video_flags Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10 13:33                             ` [PATCH 08/10] sysctl: Remove broken cdrom binary sysctls Alan Cox
2007-08-10 15:55                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10 17:16                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 18:30                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  1:04                       ` [PATCH 06/10] sysctl: Remove broken sunrpc debug " Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  1:47                     ` [PATCH 04/10] sysctl: Fix neighbour table sysctls YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-08-10  1:49                       ` David Miller
2007-08-10  2:14                         ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-08-10  2:23                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  2:29                             ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-08-10  2:35                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  1:55                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-10  2:12                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  2:22                     ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-08-10  2:01             ` [PATCH 3/3] sysctl: Error on bad sysctl tables YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2007-08-10  2:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-10  2:18               ` Eric W. Biederman

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