From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763496AbXG2Obv (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:31:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1762662AbXG2Obm (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:31:42 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]:4410 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1761026AbXG2Obl convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:31:41 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Uc6R4rOtWpC0WMb4rkvsiXJ+uaeAPob9Dmlo4qg6nBOxFZV9z01JXcFyyMyerLdeDug4VViy7q67/wzA+Qtabni2pUWpXWTm/J/3cVQ8vbEZFE8o3lUMJvBDqtEYkfpwEutJQZobZzItCaXy2X2o8bYlH32nxdmOV4FRCqB0onE= Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:31:29 +0200 From: Diego Calleja To: Bill Huey (hui) Cc: Linus Torvalds , jos poortvliet , ck@vds.kolivas.org, Michael Chang , Kasper Sandberg , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [ck] Re: Linus 2.6.23-rc1 Message-Id: <20070729163129.c8427d51.diegocg@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20070729010039.GA11661@gnuppy.monkey.org> References: <200707282003.45142.jos@mijnkamer.nl> <200707282128.39906.jos@mijnkamer.nl> <20070728200705.GF32582@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20070728230609.43273a75.diegocg@gmail.com> <20070728213232.GG32582@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20070729010039.GA11661@gnuppy.monkey.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:00:39 -0700, Bill Huey (hui) escribió: > The scheduler could have and still can undertake good solid transformation, > but getting folks to listen is another story which is why Con quit. CFS > basically locks him and his ideas out, not just from a technical stand This is just wrong: AFAIK nobody is stopping Con or any other people from continuing developing SD or any other scheduler, and CFS certainly is subject to criticism. The idea that Linux can't use other innovative ideas in the scheduler is only in your mind. > This time it was Con being the Mindcraft catalyst. But he's on *our* side > and he got beat down by the Linux kernel community. That's the tragedy here. > He was beaten down by the very people he was trying to help out and > support. It should have been handled better. Get real: I don't the linux development has always been "friendly". The idea of a "GNU-hippie community" where everybody is good and helps others and shares their pots is what the Sun bloggers seem to think that opensolaris should resemble, but it doesn't matches the real world.