From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933979AbXG2Sbx (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:31:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764961AbXG2Sbn (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:31:43 -0400 Received: from mondschein.lichtvoll.de ([194.150.191.11]:4105 "EHLO mail.lichtvoll.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759775AbXG2Sbm (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:31:42 -0400 From: Martin Steigerwald To: ck@vds.kolivas.org Subject: Re: [ck] Re: Linus 2.6.23-rc1 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:31:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: Diego Calleja , Bill Huey (hui) , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Michael Chang , Linus Torvalds , Kasper Sandberg References: <2007 <20070729163129.c8427d51.diegocg@gmail.com> (sfid-20070729_201149_379740_CEC6DE3C) In-Reply-To: <20070729163129.c8427d51.diegocg@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2571628.2XNRRgNbxK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200707292031.40276.Martin@lichtvoll.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --nextPart2571628.2XNRRgNbxK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Sonntag 29 Juli 2007 schrieb Diego Calleja: > > This time it was Con being the Mindcraft catalyst. But he's on *our* > > side and he got beat down by the Linux kernel community. That's the > > tragedy here. He was beaten down by the very people he was trying to > > help out and support. It should have been handled better. > > Get real: I don't the linux development has always been "friendly". The > idea of a "GNU-hippie community" where everybody is good and helps > others and shares their pots is what the Sun bloggers seem to think > that opensolaris should resemble, but it doesn't matches the real > world. Actually I have seen friendly communities around Linux and free software.=20 Like the KDE project, the ck patchset mailing list community, the=20 TuxOnIce aka suspend2 community, the SGI XFS community, the Bazaar=20 community, quite some parts of the Debian community just to name a few. So I know that it can be different. I know that its inaccurate to talk=20 about the whole Linux kernel community. I had quite friendly contacts=20 with core Linux developers like with Ingo (yes, with Ingo!;-) or Greg=20 Kroah-Hartman. So what would be wrong with looking at how this worked out and why and how= =20 it would be possible to avoid loosing a talented developer? =2D-=20 Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 --nextPart2571628.2XNRRgNbxK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGrN0MmRvqrKWZhMcRAqrIAKCXs5No/jEaVOrM5xlFq9pZ2AV+GgCcDjY9 CRMnhf3goKSVbhPIlFHg3PA= =3ld5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2571628.2XNRRgNbxK--