From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RT: Add priority-queuing and priority-inheritance to workqueue infrastructure
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 01:34:22 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070801213422.GA280@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1186002783.9513.228.camel@ghaskins-t60p.haskins.net>
On 08/01, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 00:50 +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/01, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > >
> > > It's translating priorities through the work queues, which doesn't seem
> > > to happen with the current implementation. A high priority, say
> > > SCHED_FIFO priority 99, task may have to wait for a nice -5 work queue
> > > to finish..
> >
> > Why should that task wait?
>
> I assume "that task" = the RT99 task? If so, that is precisely the
> question. It shouldn't wait. ;) With mainline, it is simply queued
> with every other request. There could be an RT40, and a SCHED_NORMAL in
> front of it in the queue that will get processed first. In addition,
> the system could suffer from a priority inversion if some unrelated but
> lower priority task (say RT98) was blocking the workqueue thread from
> making forward progress on the nice -5 job.
>
> To clarify: when a design utilizes a singlethread per workqueue (such as
> in both mainline and this patch), the RT99 will always have to wait
> behind any already dispatched jobs.
It is not that "RT99 will always have to wait". But yes, the work_struct
queued by RT99 has to wait.
> That is a given. However, with
> Daniels patch, two things happen in addition to normal processing.
Yes, I see what the patch does,
> 1) The RT99 task would move ahead in the queue of anything else that was
> also scheduled on the workqueue that is < RT99.
this itself is wrong, breaks flush_workqueue() semantics
> 2) The priority of the workqueue task would be temporarily elevated to
> RT99 so that the currently dispatched task will complete at the same
> priority as the waiter.
_Which_ waiter? I can't understand at all why work_struct should "inherit"
the priority of the task which queued it. This looks just wrong to me,
even if could implement this safely.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-01 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-01 0:26 [PATCH] RT: Add priority-queuing and priority-inheritance to workqueue infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 3:52 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 11:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 15:10 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 15:19 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 15:55 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 17:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 21:48 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-08-01 17:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-01 17:10 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 18:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:39 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:29 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 20:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 20:43 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:34 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 21:02 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 21:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 21:34 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-08-01 21:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 22:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 23:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-02 19:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 11:35 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 14:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 14:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 15:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 15:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 16:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 16:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-06 13:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 14:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 15:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 15:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 19:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 19:37 ` Gregory Haskins
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