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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] USB: Only enable autosuspend by default on certain device classes
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:01:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708022301.08719.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0708022240250.1043-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Thursday 02 August 2007, Alan Stern wrote:
> Also, building something this sweeping into a kernel driver feels like
> a mistake.  It ought to be more easily configurable from userspace, say
> via a sysfs file.

Yeah, I could have sworn there was extensive discussion over the
creation of a sysfs .../power/autususpend attribute which can enable
or disable autosuspend on a per-device basis. 

Seems to me it ought to be practical to organize a database that can
be consulted by an outcall from udev, disabling autosuspend on devices
which are known to be broken.  The "modules.usbmap" syntax is an obvious
place to start (painful though it is), and I'm sure there are folk who
would prefer web-accessible/updatable databases.

It'd need people to maintain that, of course, along with whatever
tools consult it.  But that's a solvable problem, and it would keep
the problem properly outside of the kernel.

Long term, of course, this is just a pile of bugs for device vendors
to fix in their next revisions ... so they don't end up on the list
of "devices to avoid buying" for use with Linux systems.

- Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-03  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-02 23:56 [PATCH] USB: Only enable autosuspend by default on certain device classes Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03  1:15 ` Greg KH
2007-08-03  1:47   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03  2:46     ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2007-08-03  6:01       ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-08-03 11:28         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 11:44           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-08-03 12:04             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 12:26               ` Rogan Dawes
2007-08-03 12:32                 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 14:01                   ` David Brownell
2007-08-03 14:09                     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 14:28                       ` Alan Stern
2007-08-03 14:33                         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 14:41                           ` Alan Stern
2007-08-03 15:10                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 14:43                           ` Jiri Kosina
2007-08-03 14:53                             ` [linux-usb-devel] " Dave Jones
2007-08-03 14:58                               ` Jiri Kosina
2007-08-03 15:24                               ` David Brownell
2007-08-03 15:29                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-08-03 17:47                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-08-03 15:25                               ` Adam Kropelin
2007-08-03 15:31                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-08-03 15:48                                   ` Dave Jones
2007-08-03 16:49                                     ` David Brownell
2007-08-03 16:55                                     ` Adam Kropelin
2007-08-03 15:06                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 14:37                       ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2007-08-03 15:03                         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 16:08                           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-08-03 17:49                             ` Alan Stern
2007-08-03 20:03                             ` Dave Jones
2007-08-03 16:29                           ` David Brownell
2007-08-03 16:50                             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 17:49                             ` Greg KH
2007-08-03 17:44                   ` Greg KH
2007-08-03 17:48                     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 19:29                       ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-08-03 19:56                         ` Pete Zaitcev
2007-08-07  9:14                           ` Amit Kucheria
2007-08-03 20:12                     ` [linux-usb-devel] " Dave Jones
2007-08-03 21:17                       ` Alan Stern
2007-08-03 21:31                         ` Dave Jones
2007-08-03 21:33                         ` Matthew Garrett
2007-08-03 12:34                 ` Felipe Balbi
2007-08-03  6:06     ` David Brownell
2007-08-03 14:22       ` Dave Jones
2007-08-03 14:52         ` David Brownell
2007-08-03  7:57     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-08-03 14:24       ` Dave Jones
2007-08-03 14:32         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-08-03 14:36           ` [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] USB: Only enable autosuspend by?default " Dave Jones
2007-08-03 19:34         ` [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] USB: Only enable autosuspend by default " Pete Zaitcev
2007-08-03 19:45           ` Dave Jones
2007-08-03 20:04             ` Pete Zaitcev

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