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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	david@lang.hm, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:23:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708031523.19623.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070731063833.GD22419@elf.ucw.cz>

On Tuesday 31 July 2007 02:38, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > Without this change, it is possible to build CONFIG_HIBERNATE
> > on all !SMP architectures, but not necessarily their SMP versions.
> 
> Did you want to say "CONFIG_SUSPEND"?

Yes.

> > I don't know for sure if the architecture list under SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE
> > is correct.  For now it simply matches the list for
> > SUSPEND_SMP_POSSIBLE.
> 
> I do not think it is.
> 
> > Signed-off-by: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  Kconfig |    7 ++++++-
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/power/Kconfig b/kernel/power/Kconfig
> > index 412859f..ccf6576 100644
> > --- a/kernel/power/Kconfig
> > +++ b/kernel/power/Kconfig
> > @@ -72,6 +72,11 @@ config PM_TRACE
> >  	CAUTION: this option will cause your machine's real-time clock to be
> >  	set to an invalid time after a resume.
> >  
> > +config SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE
> > +	bool
> > +	depends on (X86 && !X86_VOYAGER) || (PPC64 && (PPC_PSERIES ||
> 
> At least ARM can do suspend, too... probably others. I was under
> impression that SUSPEND is "supported" by all the architectures, just
> some of them veto it at runtime (using pm_ops or how was it renamed).

The reason this entire thread started is because Linus, Jeff and others
said that they didn't want code magically compiled into their kernel
that they did not explicitly ask for -- even if the savings were small
and that kernel was already something rather beefy, such as ACPI+SMP.

The current code is simply broken, because it allows SUSPEND
on IA64 if UP, but not on SMP.  It should really be neither.

Further, the only requirement to enable CONFIG_SUSPEND by default
is PM && CONFIG_SMP=n, and that doesn't make much sense -- particularly
since many of the non X86 architectures are small and according
to the logic above, if SUSPEND (and PM_SLEEP, which it enables)
adds any code to those kernels when they don't need it,
then it would be a regression.

thus my patch, if there is a list for SMP, there should
be a list for !SMP.  If the list is incomplete, we need to fix it.
 
-Len


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-03 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-25 16:38 [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Len Brown
2007-07-25 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-25 22:51   ` Len Brown
2007-07-26  2:20     ` david
2007-07-26  4:26       ` Len Brown
2007-07-26  5:00         ` david
2007-07-26  6:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 17:45           ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:02             ` david
2007-07-26 18:16               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:27                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-07-26 18:18               ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 19:17             ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 19:57               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 20:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 20:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27 22:25                     ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Adrian Bunk
2007-07-27 22:47                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-27 23:03                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  8:42                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-30 21:18                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-28 14:44                         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-07-27 22:57                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28  4:52                         ` [2.6 patch] SOFTWARE_SUSPEND: handle HOTPLUG_CPU automatically Adrian Bunk
2007-07-28  9:07                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-28 18:30                       ` [2.6 patch] let SUSPEND select HOTPLUG_CPU Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28  7:30                     ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-28  7:33                       ` [PATCH] ACPI: restore CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP Len Brown
2007-07-28 16:25                       ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 16:55                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-28 18:29                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-28 18:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-29 10:20                               ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (was: CONFIG_SUSPEND?) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 10:21                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 12:38                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 20:40                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:17                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:18                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-29 21:36                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:30                                           ` Richard Hughes
2007-07-29 22:22                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30 21:26                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-30  2:47                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-29 21:23                                 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:24                                   ` [PATCH 1/2] Replace CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND with CONFIG_HIBERNATION (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 21:27                                   ` [PATCH 2/2] Introduce CONFIG_SUSPEND (updated) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  4:59                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  9:15                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  9:16                                         ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2007-07-31 10:01                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-30  0:21                                   ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce CONFIG_HIBERNATION and " Linus Torvalds
2007-07-30  7:25                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` Len Brown
2007-07-31  3:54                                     ` [PATCH] create CONFIG_SUSPEND_UP_POSSIBLE Len Brown
2007-07-31  6:38                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-31  9:33                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-03 19:23                                         ` Len Brown [this message]
2007-08-05 18:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-01  3:27                                     ` [PATCH] ACPI: delete CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_SLEEP (again) Len Brown
2007-08-01 10:24                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31  3:53                           ` CONFIG_SUSPEND? (was: Re: [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1) Len Brown
2007-07-31  4:09                             ` david
2007-07-31  6:33                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-26 10:07         ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:05           ` Len Brown
2007-07-26 18:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-26 18:38             ` Gabriel C
2007-07-26 18:53             ` defconfig , ACPI=n compile error Gabriel C
2007-07-26  7:02     ` [GIT PATCH] ACPI patches for 2.6.23-rc1 Linus Torvalds
2007-07-27  6:26 ` Jan Dittmer
2007-07-27 16:25   ` Thomas Renninger
2007-07-27 23:50   ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-28  7:58     ` Jan Dittmer
2007-08-01  1:34       ` Yasha Okshtein

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