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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: dragoran <drago01@gmail.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: allow non root users to set io priority "idle" ?
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:35:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070806103553.GA16133@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46B6F75D.1070808@gmail.com>

> couldn't this be fixed by bumping idle tasks to middle while they hold a 

Usually to high.

But it's all complicated and hasn't been done consistently
(there are real time mutexes in the -rt kernel for example, 
but there are lots of other locks and they have higher overhead too) 
and it's unclear we really want to do all this complexity anyways.

Also as I said the problem could then still happen in user space
which then would all need to be fixed to handle PI too.

In some cases the relationship is also not as simple as a single 
lock. And for IO handling it would be likely quite hard.

I personally always found idle priorities quite dubious because
even if they worked reliable for the CPU they will clear your cache/
load your memory controller and impact all other programs because
of this. And for the disk they will cause additional seeks which are 
also very costly.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-06 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-06  9:45 allow non root users to set io priority "idle" ? dragoran
2007-08-06 11:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:26   ` dragoran
2007-08-06 10:35     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-08-06 11:06       ` dragoran
2007-08-07 20:44       ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-07 21:35         ` dragoran
2007-08-07 22:18           ` dragoran
2007-08-08  0:04             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08  5:06             ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-08  9:37               ` dragoran
2007-08-08  2:26   ` Lee Revell
2007-08-08 10:17     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08  9:51   ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 10:20     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 11:49       ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 11:55         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 10:52     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found] <8P7nW-2Jc-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8P7QZ-3AR-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8P80L-3N5-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8P8ak-3Yr-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-07 18:21       ` Bodo Eggert

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