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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Daniel Walker <dwalker@mvista.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RT: Add priority-queuing and priority-inheritance to workqueue infrastructure
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:38:16 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070806153816.GA265@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1186412689.21381.91.camel@ghaskins-t60p.haskins.net>

On 08/06, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 18:45 +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/06, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > > still this does not change the fundamental issue of a high prio piece of
> > > work waiting on a lower prio task.
> >        ^^^^^^^
> > waiting. This is a "key" word, and this was my (perhaps wrong) point.
> 
> Actually, I think Peter is making a really important point here.

Yes. Please see another email I just sent.

> "Waiting" can be defined in more ways than the REQUEST/RESPONSE pattern
> that I have been rambling about.
> 
> Using Peters NIC vs USB example:  What if a NIC driver is using a
> workqueue as a bottom-half mechanism for its RX packet queuing.  In a
> nice RT environment it would be highly ideal if we allow the deferred
> work to complete with respect to the priority that was assigned to the
> subsystem.
> 
> So while the submitter isn't technically blocking on the work, the
> application that is receiving packets is now subject to the arbitrary
> priority of the keventd as opposed to the NIC irq.  Thus there is still
> "waiting" being subject to inversion, its just not in a REQUEST/RESPONSE
> pattern.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-06 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-01  0:26 [PATCH] RT: Add priority-queuing and priority-inheritance to workqueue infrastructure Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01  3:52 ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 11:59   ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 15:10     ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 15:19       ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 15:55         ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 17:32           ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 21:48       ` Esben Nielsen
2007-08-01 17:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-01 17:10     ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 18:26       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:39         ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:25           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:12     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 18:29       ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:18         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 20:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 20:43             ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:34           ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 20:50             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 21:02               ` Daniel Walker
2007-08-01 21:13               ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 21:34                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 21:59                   ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-01 22:22                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-01 23:53                       ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-02 19:50                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 11:35                           ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 14:26                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 14:57                               ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 15:36                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 15:50                                   ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 16:50                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 16:57                                       ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 11:49                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-06 13:18                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 13:29                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 13:32                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 14:45                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 14:52                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-06 16:40                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 15:04                                     ` Gregory Haskins
2007-08-06 15:38                                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-08-06 19:33                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-08-06 19:37                             ` Gregory Haskins

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