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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"Cédric Augonnet" <cedric.augonnet@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PAT support for i386 and x86_64
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 16:10:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070807141042.GB952@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6278d2220708070534t7096e579uef2ddbb2c997daa6@mail.gmail.com>

> What cases did you have in mind?

Mainly mapping memory which is rather tricky.

> From current Intel 64 and IA-32 Architectures Software Developer's Manual
> Volume 3A: System Programming Guide, section 10.5.2:

If you look at the detailed table it's not that simple.

> > Then there are old CPU errata that need to be handled etc.
> 
> I don't see a problem with having CONFIG_PAT depend on P4/Athlon or
> newer to avoid such workarounds for now. Better to have something
> there which works in (only) 80% of the cases, than nothing at all.

Agreed, but the patch doesn't do that.

> > You didn't solve all that at all. If it was as simple as your patch
> > we would have long done it already.
> 
> Perhaps this feature can be marked as WIP to allow this to move
> forward while corner-cases are worked out. Adding such a go/no-go

We're not going to have potentially cache corrupting features
as WIP. The last time one such bug took months to track down.

> barrier will hamper progress we do see, as it has done already for
> years.

Because it's not simple and nobody has done it properly yet.

> The PCI ordering config option years ago was a similar case, since
> various drivers didn't issue wmb()s until they were fixed up.

wmb alone is not enough for PCI ordering.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-07 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-07 12:34 PAT support for i386 and x86_64 Daniel J Blueman
2007-08-07 14:10 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-08-07 15:26   ` Daniel J Blueman
2007-08-07 15:33     ` Andi Kleen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-07  2:03 [PATCH 0/2] " Cédric Augonnet
2007-08-07  8:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08  8:26   ` Loic Prylli
2007-08-08 10:14     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 15:52       ` Cédric Augonnet
     [not found]       ` <f56c1ba00708080842i1eaa00kef5071d9a1f01f04@mail.gmail.com>
2007-08-08 16:00         ` Andi Kleen

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