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From: Dimitrios Apostolou <jimis@gmx.net>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Rafał Bilski" <rafalbilski@interia.pl>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: high system cpu load during intense disk i/o
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 16:15:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708071615.44452.jimis@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070807013708.406a22fd@the-village.bc.nu>

On Tuesday 07 August 2007 03:37:08 Alan Cox wrote:
> > > acpi_pm_read is capable of disappearing into  SMM traps which will make
> > > it look very slow.
> >
> > what is an SMM trap? I googled a bit but didn't get it...
>
> One of the less documented bits of the PC architecture. It is possible to
> arrange that the CPU jumps into a special mode when triggered by some
> specific external event. Originally this was used for stuff like APM and
> power management but some laptops use it for stuff like faking the
> keyboard interface and the Geode uses it for tons of stuff.
>
> As SMM mode is basically invisible to the OS what oprofile and friends
> see isn't what really occurs. So you see
>
> 	pci write -> some address
>
> you don't then see
>
> 	SMM
> 	CPU saves processor state
> 	Lots of code runs (eg i2c polling the battery)
> 	code executes RSM
>
> 	Back to the OS
>
> and the next visible profile point. This can make an I/O operation look
> really slow even if it isn't the I/O which is slow.

I always thought x86 is becoming a really dirty architecture. I now think it 
is even uglier. :-p Thank you for the thorough explanation. 

>
> > the reason I'm talking about a "software driver limit" is because I am
> > sure about some facts:
> > - The disks can reach very high speeds (60 MB/s on other systems with
> > udma5)
>
> Is UDMA5 being selected firstly ?

What the kernel selects by default is udma4 (66MB/s). I tried forcing udma5 
(100MB/s) with hdparm even though I think my chipset doesn't support it, and 
indeed there was a difference! After repetitive tests udma4 gives 20MB/s, 
udma5 gives 22MB/s. I'm mostly surprised however that I could even set this 
option.

>
> > So what is left? Probably only the corresponding kernel module.
>
> Unlikely to be the disk driver as that really hasn't changed tuning for a
> very long time. I/O scheduler interactions are however very possible.

I'm now trying to use the new libata driver and see what happens... 


Thanks, 
Dimitris

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-07 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-03 16:03 high system cpu load during intense disk i/o Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-05 16:03 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-05 17:58   ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-05 18:42     ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-05 20:08       ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-06 16:14       ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-06 19:18         ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 19:48           ` Alan Cox
2007-08-07  0:40             ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-07  0:37               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-07 13:15                 ` Dimitrios Apostolou [this message]
2007-08-06 22:12           ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-07  0:49             ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-07  9:03               ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-07  9:43                 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06  1:28   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 14:20     ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 17:33       ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-06 19:27         ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 20:04         ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-06 16:09     ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-07 14:50 ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-08 19:08   ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-09  8:17     ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2007-08-10  7:06       ` Rafał Bilski
2007-08-17 23:19         ` Dimitrios Apostolou

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