From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Sheplyakov Alexei <varg@theor.jinr.ru>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, dragoran <drago01@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: allow non root users to set io priority "idle" ?
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:20:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070808102056.GC12861@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070808095132.GA31020@theor.jinr.ru>
On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 01:51:32PM +0400, Sheplyakov Alexei wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 01:11:01PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> > Very low priority can starve others when it holds some kernel resource
> > needed by another task.
>
> Nevertheless ordinary users are permitted to lower priority ([re]nice)
Low priority as allowed by renice is ok -- the resource holder will
run eventually and the system make progress.
> I don't quite understand. There are a lot of other ways to starve such
> high-priority process:
> 1. renice the low-priority process
That requires user action.
e.g. if you google a bit you can find a famous story where the NASA
had to do that remotely to solve a PI problem on one of the Mars rovers. But I'm
sure they weren't very pleased about it. And not everybody has a JPL
control room to patch things up in the backhand.
> 2. send it a signal
> 3. ptrace it
Only root can do these.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-08 10:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-06 9:45 allow non root users to set io priority "idle" ? dragoran
2007-08-06 11:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 10:26 ` dragoran
2007-08-06 10:35 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-06 11:06 ` dragoran
2007-08-07 20:44 ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-07 21:35 ` dragoran
2007-08-07 22:18 ` dragoran
2007-08-08 0:04 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 5:06 ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-08 9:37 ` dragoran
2007-08-08 2:26 ` Lee Revell
2007-08-08 10:17 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 9:51 ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 10:20 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-08-08 11:49 ` Sheplyakov Alexei
2007-08-08 11:55 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-08 10:52 ` Jens Axboe
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2007-08-07 18:21 ` Bodo Eggert
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