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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, horms@verge.net.au,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rpjday@mindspring.com, ak@suse.de,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, cfriesen@nortel.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, jesper.juhl@gmail.com, zlynx@acm.org,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, wensong@linux-vs.org, wjiang@resilience.com,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:59:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070815195915.GL9645@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <369924c4b3132a4b06258b7ac81b1006@kernel.crashing.org>

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:46:55PM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >>>Well if there is only one memory location involved, then smp_rmb()
> >>>isn't
> >>>going to really do anything anyway, so it would be incorrect to use 
> >>>it.
> >>
> >>rmb() orders *any* two reads; that includes two reads from the same
> >>location.
> >
> >If the two reads are to the same location, all CPUs I am aware of
> >will maintain the ordering without need for a memory barrier.
> 
> That's true of course, although there is no real guarantee for that.

A CPU that did not provide this property ("cache coherence") would be
most emphatically reviled.  So we are pretty safe assuming that CPUs
will provide it.

						Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-15 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-09 13:41 [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv Chris Snook
2007-08-09 16:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10  9:23   ` David Howells
2007-08-10 19:54     ` Chris Snook
2007-08-11  0:54       ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11  4:29         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-13  5:15           ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-13  6:03             ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14  5:34               ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-14  7:26                 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-14 17:01                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14 22:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-14 22:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 13:29                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-15 15:06                         ` Michael Buesch
2007-08-15 13:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 20:15                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16  1:09                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16  2:27                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-11  8:47       ` David Howells
2007-08-13  6:44         ` Chris Snook
2007-08-14  5:42           ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 18:51             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 19:46                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:59                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2007-08-15 20:13                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 20:38                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 21:15                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16  1:20                           ` Nick Piggin

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