From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764024AbXHQQzY (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:55:24 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755709AbXHQQzL (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:55:11 -0400 Received: from smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([66.196.96.92]:21355 "HELO smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1755433AbXHQQzJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:55:09 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=K7Nhwpnz2JDvroa/YTMbvU9hPHI0mEw/zR+HbriHMw4UT2XyU9O+kCa+BIUGk1+sRxHjH51s6UFa6u9OPLtQnMXKdzeHl8C/o8/p6saclDIV+N94h2Sdl8CYvIP1rryHfmu74pNBNAm6aSSBW/FxYAiWAgaqj8Cwr3CxrWuzQe8= ; X-YMail-OSG: 9aICi_cVM1nVdzppqc9enDfA3SCunj8qUMQPy.gWggk_LhDCLuaKiBkGJNPNrBdTZZLsjuxs3Q-- From: David Brownell To: "Kay Sievers" Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc: Make rtc-ds1742 driver hotplug-aware Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:55:05 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Cc: "Atsushi Nemoto" , jengelh@computergmbh.de, a.zummo@towertech.it, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rtc-linux@googlegroups.com, "Greg KH" References: <200708170823.15894.david-b@pacbell.net> <20070818.011501.41012303.anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp> <3ae72650708170932y5369213bq3479708216923edb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3ae72650708170932y5369213bq3479708216923edb@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200708170955.06388.david-b@pacbell.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday 17 August 2007, Kay Sievers wrote: > Again, "Again"? > the only sane solution is to provide MODALIAS="platform:" > from the platform bus, and adding the aliases to drivers who support > autoloading. Modalias strings are not free-text strings, they are > required to be prefixed by the subsystem. If so, then whoever tried to change the usage of module aliases in that way goofed in several ways. First, by not changing all the in-kernel uses. Second, by not changing all the out-of-tree uses in various distros, toolchains, etc. Third, by not even documenting that change... Module aliases have been around since very early versions of stuff like "modprobe" ... without that new rule. Aliases have always been > I still fail to see why platform must be different from everything > else in the kernel. It isn't. See above. > Please change that stuff, and the bugs which we > are fighting magically go away, because module-init-tools alias > resolving works like it does for every other subsystem in the kernel. Those bugs would be ... what? "We" haven't observed anything attributable to this usage, which has been common for years now. - Dave