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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	John Berthels <jjberthels@gmail.com>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] maps: /proc/<pid>/pmaps interface - memory maps in granularity of pages
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:22:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070818172225.GR30556@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070818084531.GB5277@mail.ustc.edu.cn>

On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 04:45:31PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> Matt,
> 
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 01:40:42AM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > - On memory pressure,
> > >   - as VSZ goes up, RSS will be bounded by physical memory.
> > >     So VSZ:RSS ratio actually goes up with memory pressure.
> > 
> > And yes.
> > 
> > But that's not what I'm talking about. You're likely to have more
> > holes in your ranges with memory pressure as things that aren't active
> > get paged or swapped out and back in. And because we're walking the
> > LRU more rapidly, we'll flip over a lot of the active bits more often
> > which will mean more output.
> > 
> > >   - page range is a good unit of locality. They are more likely to be
> > >     reclaimed as a whole. So (RSS:page_ranges) wouldn't degrade as much.
> > 
> > There is that. The relative magnitude of the different effects is
> > unclear. But it is clear that the worst case for pmap is much worse
> 
> > than pagemap (two lines per page of RSS?). 
> It's one line per page. No sane app will make vmas proliferate.

Sane apps are few and far between.
 
> So let's talk about the worst case.
> 
> pagemap's data set size is determined by VSZ.
> 4GB VSZ means 1M PFNs, hence 8MB pagemap data.
> 
> pmaps's data set size is bounded by RSS hence physical memory.
> 4GB RSS means up to 1M page ranges, hence ~20M pmaps data.
> Not too bad :)

Hmmm, I've been misreading the output.

What does it do with nonlinear VMAs?

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-18 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070816220516.782145952@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05 ` [PATCH 0/4] process memory footprints in proc/<pid>/[s|p]maps Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.064901548@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 1/4] maps: PSS(proportional set size) accounting in smaps Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  2:13   ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817024443.GA5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  2:44       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.192029043@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 2/4] maps: address based vma walking Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  2:16   ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817025454.GB5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  2:54       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.313377588@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 3/4] maps: introduce generic_maps_open() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070816220849.472883642@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-16 22:05   ` [PATCH 4/4] maps: /proc/<pid>/pmaps interface - memory maps in granularity of pages Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  2:38   ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817034437.GC5521@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  3:44       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17  3:56       ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]     ` <20070817064727.GA6723@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  6:47       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-17 16:58       ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]         ` <20070818024831.GA7856@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-18  2:48           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-18  6:40           ` Matt Mackall
     [not found]             ` <20070818103146.GA6744@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-18 10:31               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]             ` <20070818084531.GB5277@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-18  8:45               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-18 17:22               ` Matt Mackall [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20070819004008.GA5297@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-19  0:40                   ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] <20070819075410.411207640@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
     [not found] ` <20070819075547.785390741@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-19  7:54   ` Fengguang Wu

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