From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Jan Glauber <jang@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [accounting regression since rc1] scheduler updates
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:45:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070820154529.GA300@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708141037.48001.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
* Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> 1. Jan could finish his sched_clock implementation for s390 and we
> would get close to the precise numbers. This would also let CFS make
> better decisions. [...]
i think this is the best option and it should give us the same /proc
accuracy on s390 as before, plus improved scheduler precision. (and
improved tracing accuracy, etc. etc.) Note that for architectures that
already have sched_clock() at least as precise as the stime/utime stats
there's no problem - and that seems to include all architectures except
s390.
could you send that precise sched_clock() patch? It should be an order
of magnitude simpler than the high-precision stime/utime tracking you
already do, and it's needed for quality scheduling anyway.
> [...] Downside: its not as precise as before as we do some math on the
> numbers and it will burn cycles to compute numbers we already have
> (utime=sum*utime/stime).
i can see no real downside to it: if all of stime, utime and
sum_exec_clock are precise, then the numbers we present via /proc are
precise too:
sum_exec * utime / stime;
there should be no loss of precision on s390 because the
multiplication/division rounding is not accumulating - we keep the
precise sum_exec, utime and stime values untouched.
on x86 we dont really want to slow down every irq and syscall event with
precise stime/utime stats for 'top' to display. On s390 the
multiplication and division is indeed superfluous but it keeps the code
generic for arches where utime/stime is less precise and irq-sampled -
while the sum is always precise. It also animates architectures that
have an imprecise sched_clock() implementation to improve its accuracy.
Accessing the /proc files alone is many orders of magnitude more
expensive than this simple multiplication and division.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-20 15:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-12 16:32 [git pull request] scheduler updates Ingo Molnar
2007-08-14 8:37 ` [accounting regression since rc1] " Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-16 8:17 ` [PATCH][RFC] Re: accounting regression since rc1 Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-20 15:45 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-08-20 17:03 ` [accounting regression since rc1] scheduler updates Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-20 18:33 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 19:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-20 19:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 7:20 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-20 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 7:00 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 9:18 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 23:07 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21 2:18 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 7:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 10:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:15 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 11:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 8:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 9:11 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 9:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21 10:38 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:58 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 10:39 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 10:43 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:24 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:58 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 12:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 12:57 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-22 7:50 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-22 7:59 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200708141032.47235.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708140835240.30176@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-08-14 18:19 ` Christian Borntraeger
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