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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: CONFIG_SUSPEND and power consumption
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:08:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708202108.35674.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070820172907.GC3975@ucw.cz>

On Monday, 20 August 2007 19:29, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > If I rmmod "ehci-hcd" then the power consumption is back to 69 W. This
> > > confirms that this is really USB-related. I have to admit that I did
> > > not expect an external drive to eat that much power from the system,
> > > especially when not used. I am told that VIA chips are notoriously bad
> > > at this kind of things. I'll try the same external drive on an Intel
> > > system later today.
> > > 
> > > The last mystery remaining is how USB "activity" can cause my CPU to
> > > heat. I would expect the south bridge to heat, not the CPU.
> > 
> > USB, or strictly speaking EHCI, OHCI and UHCI, use DMA. To allow
> > that the cache coherency logic has to be active. Therefore your CPU
> > cannot go to C3. Therefore it draws more power. The problem we are
> > facing in USB is that to get great savings, our coverage has to be perfect.
> > One device that cannot be autosuspended and we lose most savings.
> 
> Ok.. but CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND should not really have anything to do with
> CONFIG_SUSPEND (= s2ram). Perhaps it should depend on CONFIG_PM
> instead?

CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND doesn't depend on CONFIG_SUSPEND.

Greetings,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-20 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070819153259.2c96b904@hyperion.delvare>
2007-08-19 20:42 ` CONFIG_SUSPEND and power consumption Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-20 10:02   ` Jean Delvare
2007-08-20 10:11     ` Oliver Neukum
2007-08-20 15:34       ` Jean Delvare
2007-08-20 17:29       ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-20 19:08         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-08-20 20:19           ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-20 21:48             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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