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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Jan Glauber <jang@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [accounting regression since rc1]  scheduler updates
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:59:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070822075912.GA7411@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708220950.35044.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>


* Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 21. August 2007 schrieben Sie:
> > could you try the patch below, does it work any better?
> 
> I looked again at the scheduler code and things are getting better 
> when I run the patch below on top of your patch and with our 
> sched_clock prototype. I guess there is a reason why you want 
> rq->clock advanced by at least one tick?

yeah - on PCs if for whatever reason the TSC misbehaves (and that's 
quite frequent) then this code sets a minimum boundary for behavior. If 
sched_clock() is totally random or does not advance at all or goes 
backwards all the time then rq_clock() still functions and falls back to 
jiffies-granularity behavior in essence.

> We discussed calling scheduler_tick with virtual time as well.
> Would it have the same result?
> What would be the impact on latency?

if you call scheduler_tick() with virtual time then the "safety" 
measures in rq_clock() do not kick in and sched_clock() behaves 
correctly as far as the scheduler is concerned. (if everything is in 
virtual time then the scheduler has no way to observe/notice that in 
reality this is a virtual machine.)

> After looking at the current s390 timer code, it seems that this kind of 
> change is not trivial enough to be rc3+ ready. 
> I personally think, that for 2.6.23 we should use the patch against 
> fs/proc/array.c and everything else for 2.6.24?

yes, that has the least impact for .23 - i have added your array.c patch 
to my queue.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-22  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-12 16:32 [git pull request] scheduler updates Ingo Molnar
2007-08-14  8:37 ` [accounting regression since rc1] " Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-16  8:17   ` [PATCH][RFC] Re: accounting regression since rc1 Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-20 15:45   ` [accounting regression since rc1] scheduler updates Ingo Molnar
2007-08-20 17:03     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 18:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-20 18:33         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 19:00           ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-20 19:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  7:20             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-20 19:12           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  7:00           ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21  9:18             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-20 23:07         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21  2:18         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21  7:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 10:07             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 10:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:15                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-21 11:20                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  8:17     ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21  8:42       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  9:11         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21  9:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21  9:48             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-08-21 10:38             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 11:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:58                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 10:39             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 10:43             ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 11:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:24                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 11:30                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 11:58                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-21 12:21                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-21 12:57                         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-08-21 11:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-22  7:50         ` Christian Borntraeger
2007-08-22  7:59           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
     [not found] ` <200708141032.47235.borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708140835240.30176@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-08-14 18:19     ` Christian Borntraeger

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