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From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>,
	joe@perches.com, yi.li@analog.com, vivi.li@analog.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, sonic.zhang@analog.com,
	roy.huang@analog.com, robin.getz@analog.com,
	michael.hennerich@analog.com, michael.frysinger@analog.com,
	marc.hoffman@analog.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jie.zhang@analog.com, grace.pan@analog.com,
	bernd.schmidt@analog.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:14:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070824161451.GM21720@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070824100943.4e81932a@the-village.bc.nu>

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> > 
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
> 
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.
> 
> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
"subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
automated messages.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-24 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-13  6:24 [PATCH] [85/2many] MAINTAINERS - BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE joe
2007-08-22 10:15 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters Bryan Wu
2007-08-22 10:23   ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-08-22 10:45     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-08-22 14:45       ` Bryan Wu
2007-08-22 14:55       ` [PATCH take #2] " Bryan Wu
2007-08-22 22:12         ` Joe Perches
2007-08-23  2:56           ` Bryan Wu
2007-08-24  0:24         ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-24  4:04           ` Bryan Wu
2007-08-24  4:56             ` Matt Mackall
2007-08-24  9:09               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-24 16:14                 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-08-24 21:11                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-08-24 17:42                 ` Andy Isaacson

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