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* [PATCH] [85/2many] MAINTAINERS - BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
@ 2007-08-13  6:24 joe
  2007-08-22 10:15 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters Bryan Wu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: joe @ 2007-08-13  6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz,
	michael.hennerich, michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel,
	jie.zhang, jerry.zeng, grace.pan, bryan.wu, bernd.schmidt,
	aubrey.li, akpm

Add file pattern to MAINTAINER entry

Signed-off-by: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index a78c8e8..6afe57b 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -877,6 +877,8 @@ M:	yi.li@analog.com
 L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
 W:	http://blackfin.uclinux.org
 S:	Supported
+F:	arch/blackfin/
+F:	include/asm-blackfin/
 
 BLACKFIN EMAC DRIVER
 P:	Bryan Wu

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* [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use  our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-13  6:24 [PATCH] [85/2many] MAINTAINERS - BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE joe
@ 2007-08-22 10:15 ` Bryan Wu
  2007-08-22 10:23   ` Michal Piotrowski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Wu @ 2007-08-22 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: joe
  Cc: yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz,
	michael.hennerich, michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel,
	jie.zhang, grace.pan, bryan.wu, bernd.schmidt, akpm

Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
---
 MAINTAINERS |   28 ----------------------------
 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index e4dde7f..55ac8e5 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -717,34 +717,6 @@ M:	rpurdie@rpsys.net
 S:	Maintained
 
 BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
-P:	Aubrey Li
-M:	aubrey.li@analog.com
-P:	Bernd Schmidt
-M:	bernd.schmidt@analog.com
-P:	Bryan Wu
-M:	bryan.wu@analog.com
-P:	Grace Pan
-M:	grace.pan@analog.com
-P:	Marc Hoffman
-M:	marc.hoffman@analog.com
-P:	Michael Hennerich
-M:	michael.hennerich@analog.com
-P:	Mike Frysinger
-M:	michael.frysinger@analog.com
-P:	Jerry Zeng
-M:	jerry.zeng@analog.com
-P:	Jie Zhang
-M:	jie.zhang@analog.com
-P:	Robin Getz
-M:	robin.getz@analog.com
-P:	Roy Huang
-M:	roy.huang@analog.com
-P:	Sonic Zhang
-M:	sonic.zhang@analog.com
-P:	Vivi Li
-M:	vivi.li@analog.com
-P:	Yi Li
-M:	yi.li@analog.com
 L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
 W:	http://blackfin.uclinux.org
 S:	Supported
-- 
1.5.2.4

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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 10:15 ` [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters Bryan Wu
@ 2007-08-22 10:23   ` Michal Piotrowski
  2007-08-22 10:45     ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Michal Piotrowski @ 2007-08-22 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bryan.wu
  Cc: joe, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz,
	michael.hennerich, michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel,
	jie.zhang, grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

Hi Bryan,

On 22/08/07, Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com> wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
> ---
>  MAINTAINERS |   28 ----------------------------
>  1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index e4dde7f..55ac8e5 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -717,34 +717,6 @@ M: rpurdie@rpsys.net
>  S:     Maintained
>
>  BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
> -P:     Aubrey Li
> -M:     aubrey.li@analog.com
> -P:     Bernd Schmidt
> -M:     bernd.schmidt@analog.com
> -P:     Bryan Wu
> -M:     bryan.wu@analog.com
> -P:     Grace Pan
> -M:     grace.pan@analog.com
> -P:     Marc Hoffman
> -M:     marc.hoffman@analog.com
> -P:     Michael Hennerich
> -M:     michael.hennerich@analog.com
> -P:     Mike Frysinger
> -M:     michael.frysinger@analog.com
> -P:     Jerry Zeng
> -M:     jerry.zeng@analog.com
> -P:     Jie Zhang
> -M:     jie.zhang@analog.com
> -P:     Robin Getz
> -M:     robin.getz@analog.com
> -P:     Roy Huang
> -M:     roy.huang@analog.com
> -P:     Sonic Zhang
> -M:     sonic.zhang@analog.com
> -P:     Vivi Li
> -M:     vivi.li@analog.com
> -P:     Yi Li
> -M:     yi.li@analog.com
>  L:     uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)

It is subscribers-only - I do not want to subscribe list only for
sending/forwarding messages/bug reports/known regressions weekly
newsletter.

>  W:     http://blackfin.uclinux.org
>  S:     Supported

Regards,
Michal

-- 
LOG
http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/log/

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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 10:23   ` Michal Piotrowski
@ 2007-08-22 10:45     ` Mike Frysinger
  2007-08-22 14:45       ` Bryan Wu
  2007-08-22 14:55       ` [PATCH take #2] " Bryan Wu
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2007-08-22 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Piotrowski
  Cc: bryan.wu, joe, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang,
	robin.getz, michael.hennerich, michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman,
	linux-kernel, jie.zhang, grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On 8/22/07, Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22/08/07, Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com> wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
> >  L:     uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
>
> It is subscribers-only - I do not want to subscribe list only for
> sending/forwarding messages/bug reports/known regressions weekly
> newsletter.

it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe, we will
forward any relevant messages
-mike

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* Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 10:45     ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2007-08-22 14:45       ` Bryan Wu
  2007-08-22 14:55       ` [PATCH take #2] " Bryan Wu
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Wu @ 2007-08-22 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Frysinger
  Cc: Michal Piotrowski, bryan.wu, joe, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds,
	sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 06:45 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On 8/22/07, Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 22/08/07, Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com> wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
> > >  L:     uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
> >
> > It is subscribers-only - I do not want to subscribe list only for
> > sending/forwarding messages/bug reports/known regressions weekly
> > newsletter.
> 
> it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe, we will
> forward any relevant messages
> -mike

So, I will delete "(subscribers-only)" and post a patch later.

- Bryan Wu

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* [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 10:45     ` Mike Frysinger
  2007-08-22 14:45       ` Bryan Wu
@ 2007-08-22 14:55       ` Bryan Wu
  2007-08-22 22:12         ` Joe Perches
  2007-08-24  0:24         ` Matt Mackall
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Wu @ 2007-08-22 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Frysinger
  Cc: Michal Piotrowski, bryan.wu, joe, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds,
	sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
---
 MAINTAINERS |   30 +-----------------------------
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)

diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index 371fe67..982e51a 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -717,35 +717,7 @@ M:	rpurdie@rpsys.net
 S:	Maintained
 
 BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
-P:	Aubrey Li
-M:	aubrey.li@analog.com
-P:	Bernd Schmidt
-M:	bernd.schmidt@analog.com
-P:	Bryan Wu
-M:	bryan.wu@analog.com
-P:	Grace Pan
-M:	grace.pan@analog.com
-P:	Marc Hoffman
-M:	marc.hoffman@analog.com
-P:	Michael Hennerich
-M:	michael.hennerich@analog.com
-P:	Mike Frysinger
-M:	michael.frysinger@analog.com
-P:	Jerry Zeng
-M:	jerry.zeng@analog.com
-P:	Jie Zhang
-M:	jie.zhang@analog.com
-P:	Robin Getz
-M:	robin.getz@analog.com
-P:	Roy Huang
-M:	roy.huang@analog.com
-P:	Sonic Zhang
-M:	sonic.zhang@analog.com
-P:	Vivi Li
-M:	vivi.li@analog.com
-P:	Yi Li
-M:	yi.li@analog.com
-L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
+L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
 W:	http://blackfin.uclinux.org
 S:	Supported
 
-- 
1.5.2

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 14:55       ` [PATCH take #2] " Bryan Wu
@ 2007-08-22 22:12         ` Joe Perches
  2007-08-23  2:56           ` Bryan Wu
  2007-08-24  0:24         ` Matt Mackall
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Joe Perches @ 2007-08-22 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bryan.wu
  Cc: Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds,
	sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 22:55 +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>

Perhaps this is better?

BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
P:	Blackfin Architecture Team
M:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
W:	http://blackfin.uclinux.org
S:	Supported
F:	arch/blackfin/
F:	include/asm-blackfin/




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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 22:12         ` Joe Perches
@ 2007-08-23  2:56           ` Bryan Wu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Wu @ 2007-08-23  2:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joe Perches
  Cc: bryan.wu, Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, yi.li, vivi.li,
	torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 15:12 -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 22:55 +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>
> 
> Perhaps this is better?
> 
> BLACKFIN ARCHITECTURE
> P:	Blackfin Architecture Team
> M:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
> L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
> W:	http://blackfin.uclinux.org
> S:	Supported
> F:	arch/blackfin/
> F:	include/asm-blackfin/
> 
> 

Thanks, it is ok

Acked-by: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-22 14:55       ` [PATCH take #2] " Bryan Wu
  2007-08-22 22:12         ` Joe Perches
@ 2007-08-24  0:24         ` Matt Mackall
  2007-08-24  4:04           ` Bryan Wu
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Matt Mackall @ 2007-08-24  0:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bryan Wu
  Cc: Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, joe, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds,
	sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:55:11PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> -L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
> +L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org

Does your list generate a complaint message back to the sender if a
non-subscriber posts to it? If so, it qualifies as a subscribers-only
list.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-24  0:24         ` Matt Mackall
@ 2007-08-24  4:04           ` Bryan Wu
  2007-08-24  4:56             ` Matt Mackall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Wu @ 2007-08-24  4:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matt Mackall
  Cc: Bryan Wu, Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, joe, yi.li, vivi.li,
	torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 19:24 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:55:11PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> > -L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
> > +L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
> 
> Does your list generate a complaint message back to the sender if a
> non-subscriber posts to it? If so, it qualifies as a subscribers-only
> list.
> 

As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
we will
forward any relevant messages"

Thanks
- Bryan Wu

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-24  4:04           ` Bryan Wu
@ 2007-08-24  4:56             ` Matt Mackall
  2007-08-24  9:09               ` Alan Cox
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Matt Mackall @ 2007-08-24  4:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bryan Wu
  Cc: Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, joe, yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds,
	sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:04:47PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 19:24 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 10:55:11PM +0800, Bryan Wu wrote:
> > > -L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org (subscribers-only)
> > > +L:	uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org
> > 
> > Does your list generate a complaint message back to the sender if a
> > non-subscriber posts to it? If so, it qualifies as a subscribers-only
> > list.
> > 
> 
> As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> we will
> forward any relevant messages"

And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-24  4:56             ` Matt Mackall
@ 2007-08-24  9:09               ` Alan Cox
  2007-08-24 16:14                 ` Matt Mackall
  2007-08-24 17:42                 ` Andy Isaacson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alan Cox @ 2007-08-24  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matt Mackall
  Cc: Bryan Wu, Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, joe, yi.li, vivi.li,
	torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

> > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > we will
> > forward any relevant messages"
> 
> And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.

It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
pending moderation.

The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
setting up smart enough mail filters ?

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-24  9:09               ` Alan Cox
@ 2007-08-24 16:14                 ` Matt Mackall
  2007-08-24 21:11                   ` Mike Frysinger
  2007-08-24 17:42                 ` Andy Isaacson
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Matt Mackall @ 2007-08-24 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox
  Cc: Bryan Wu, Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, joe, yi.li, vivi.li,
	torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> > 
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
> 
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.
> 
> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
"subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
automated messages.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-24  9:09               ` Alan Cox
  2007-08-24 16:14                 ` Matt Mackall
@ 2007-08-24 17:42                 ` Andy Isaacson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Andy Isaacson @ 2007-08-24 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan Cox
  Cc: Matt Mackall, Bryan Wu, Mike Frysinger, Michal Piotrowski, joe,
	yi.li, vivi.li, torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz,
	michael.hennerich, michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel,
	jie.zhang, grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> > 
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
> 
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.

It's another waste of space in my inbox due to poorly-implemented
software.

If their mailman installation uses a whitelist, so I get *one* message
per list rather than a bounce for every message I send, then that's
somewhat acceptable.  If I get mailbombed just for participating in a
thread on lkml, that's definitely not acceptable (and I will remove such
lists from the Cc).

It would be vastly better if mailman were smart enough to autoapprove
threaded replies -- it's not as if the spammers are any more likely to
forge In-Reply-To: than From: (which they already do).  Or even to not
waste my time by sending a "held for moderation" message until it's
processed by the listowner.

> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

Not sure what ad hominem attacks have to do with this situation.  It's
not as if I can reasonably /dev/null all mailman gunk; if there's a real
exception condition, I want to see it.

-andy

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* Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
  2007-08-24 16:14                 ` Matt Mackall
@ 2007-08-24 21:11                   ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2007-08-24 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matt Mackall
  Cc: Alan Cox, Bryan Wu, Michal Piotrowski, joe, yi.li, vivi.li,
	torvalds, sonic.zhang, roy.huang, robin.getz, michael.hennerich,
	michael.frysinger, marc.hoffman, linux-kernel, jie.zhang,
	grace.pan, bernd.schmidt, akpm

On 8/24/07, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:
> My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
> that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
> in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
> conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
> Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
> "subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
> thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

there's a difference between getting a response that says it's being
held pending a moderator approving it and a response that says it's
been flat out rejected until you subscribe

> Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
> off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
> list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
> automated messages.

that's easy enough to do
-mike

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