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From: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
Cc: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] [patch 15/23] Add cmpxchg_local to parisc
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:39:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070828063905.GA3916@colo.lackof.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070827211140.GB10627@Krystal>

On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 05:11:40PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
...
> > Can you add a description to Documentation/atomic_ops.txt ?
> > *sigh* sorry for being "late to the party" on this one...
> 
> Does Documentation/local_ops.txt answer your questions ? If not, please
> tell me and I'll gladly explain more.

Yes, it does mostly - thanks. 

A few questions/nits:
o Did you attempt quantify how many places in the kernel could use this?
  I'm just trying to get a feel for how useful this really is vs just 
  using existing mechanisms (that people understand) to implement a 
  non-SMP-safe counter that protects updates (writes) against interrupts.
  If you did, adding some referencs to local_ops.txt would be helpful
  so folks could look for examples of "correct usage".

o Wording in local_ops.txt: "on the 
	"... it will then appear to be written out of order wrt
	 other memory writes on the owner CPU."

  I'd like to suggest "by the owner CPU".

o How can a local_t counter protect updates (writes) against interrupts 
  but not preemption?
  I always thought preemption required some sort of interrupt or trap.
  Maybe the local_ops.txt explains that and I just missed it.

  DaveM explained updates "in flight" would not be visible to interrupts
  and I suspect that's the answer to my question....but then I don't "feel
  good" the local_ops are safe to update in interrupts _and_ the process
  context kernel.  Maybe the relationship between local_ops, preemption,
  and interrupts could be explained more carefully in local_ops.txt.

o OK to add a reference for local_ops.txt to atomic_ops.txt?
  They are obviously related and anyone "discovering" one of the docs
  should be made aware of the other.
  Patch+log entry appended below. Please sign-off if that's ok with you.


thanks,
grant

Diff+Commit entry against 2.6.22.5:

local_t is a variant of atomic_t and has related ops to match.
Add reference for local_t documentation to atomic_ops.txt. 

Signed-off-by: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>


--- 2.6.22.5-ORIG/Documentation/atomic_ops.txt	2007-08-27 22:50:27.000000000 -0700
+++ 2.6.22.5-ggg/Documentation/atomic_ops.txt	2007-08-27 22:54:44.000000000 -0700
@@ -14,6 +14,10 @@
 
 	typedef struct { volatile int counter; } atomic_t;
 
+local_t is very similar to atomic_t. If the counter is per CPU and only
+updated by one CPU, local_t is probably more appropriate. Please see
+Documentation/local_ops.txt for the semantics of local_t.
+
 	The first operations to implement for atomic_t's are the
 initializers and plain reads.
 

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-12 14:54 [patch 00/23] Atomic operations updates: add cmpxchg_local Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 01/23] Fall back on interrupt disable in cmpxchg8b on 80386 and 80486 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 15:51   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-12 16:23     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 02/23] Add cmpxchg_local to asm-generic for per cpu atomic operations Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 03/23] Add cmpxchg_local to arm Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 04/23] Add cmpxchg_local to avr32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-13 14:57   ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 05/23] Add cmpxchg_local to blackfin, replace __cmpxchg by generic cmpxchg Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 06/23] Add cmpxchg_local to cris Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 07/23] Add cmpxchg_local to frv Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 08/23] Add cmpxchg_local to h8300 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 09/23] Add cmpxchg_local, cmpxchg64 and cmpxchg64_local to ia64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 18:59   ` Keith Owens
2007-08-12 19:12     ` [patch 09/23] Add cmpxchg_local, cmpxchg64 and cmpxchg64_local to ia64 (revised) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 10/23] New cmpxchg_local (optimized for UP case) for m32r Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 11/23] Fix m32r __xchg Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-18 20:40   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-19 11:12     ` [PATCH] Fix m32r __xchg (revised) Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 12/23] local_t m32r use architecture specific cmpxchg_local Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 13/23] Add cmpxchg_local to m86k Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 14/23] Add cmpxchg_local to m68knommu Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 15/23] Add cmpxchg_local to parisc Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-27 21:04   ` [parisc-linux] " Grant Grundler
2007-08-27 21:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-28  6:39       ` Grant Grundler [this message]
2007-08-28 11:50         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-28 17:27           ` Grant Grundler
2007-08-28 18:38             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-29  5:59               ` Grant Grundler
2007-08-29  8:25                 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 12:08                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-27 21:20     ` David Miller
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 16/23] Add cmpxchg_local to ppc Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 17/23] Add cmpxchg_local to s390 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-13  8:35   ` Heiko Carstens
2007-08-13 13:43     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 18/23] Add cmpxchg_local to sh, use generic cmpxchg() instead of cmpxchg_u32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 19/23] Add cmpxchg_local to sh64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 20/23] Add cmpxchg_local to sparc, move __cmpxchg to system.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 21/23] Add cmpxchg_local to sparc64 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 22/23] Add cmpxchg_local to v850 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 14:54 ` [patch 23/23] Add cmpxchg_local to xtensa Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-12 15:03 ` [patch 00/23] Atomic operations updates: add cmpxchg_local Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-08-13 21:15 ` Christoph Lameter

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