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From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Fengguang Wu <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ken Chen <kenchen@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] writeback time order/delay fixes take 3
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:55:30 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070828145530.GD61154114@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070824135504.GA9029@mail.ustc.edu.cn>

On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 09:55:04PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 12:33:06PM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 09:18:41AM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 08:23:14PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > > Notes:
> > > (1) I'm not sure inode number is correlated to disk location in
> > >     filesystems other than ext2/3/4. Or parent dir?
> > 
> > The correspond to the exact location on disk on XFS. But, XFS has it's
> > own inode clustering (see xfs_iflush) and it can't be moved up
> > into the generic layers because of locking and integration into
> > the transaction subsystem.
> >
> > > (2) It duplicates some function of elevators. Why is it necessary?
> > 
> > The elevators have no clue as to how the filesystem might treat adjacent
> > inodes. In XFS, inode clustering is a fundamental feature of the inode
> > reading and writing and that is something no elevator can hope to
> > acheive....
>  
> Thank you. That explains the linear write curve(perfect!) in Chris' graph.
> 
> I wonder if XFS can benefit any more from the general writeback clustering.
> How large would be a typical XFS cluster?

Depends on inode size. typically they are 8k in size, so anything from 4-32
inodes. The inode writeback clustering is pretty tightly integrated into the
transaction subsystem and has some intricate locking, so it's not likely
to be easy (or perhaps even possible) to make it more generic.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070812091120.189651872@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11 ` [PATCH 0/6] writeback time order/delay fixes take 3 Fengguang Wu
2007-08-22  0:23   ` Chris Mason
     [not found]     ` <20070822011841.GA8090@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-22  1:18       ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-22 12:42         ` Chris Mason
2007-08-23  2:47           ` David Chinner
2007-08-23 12:13             ` Chris Mason
     [not found]               ` <20070824125643.GB7933@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-24 12:56                 ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]           ` <20070824132458.GC7933@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-24 13:24             ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-24 14:36               ` Chris Mason
2007-08-23  2:33       ` David Chinner
     [not found]         ` <20070824135504.GA9029@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-24 13:55           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-08-28 14:55           ` David Chinner [this message]
2007-08-28 15:08             ` Chris Mason
2007-08-28 16:33               ` David Chinner
2007-08-28 16:57                 ` Chris Mason
     [not found]                 ` <20070829075330.GA5960@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-29  7:53                   ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070812092052.558804846@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11   ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: fix time ordering of the per superblock inode lists 8 Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070812092052.704326603@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11   ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: fix ntfs with sb_has_dirty_inodes() Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070812092052.848213359@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11   ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: remove pages_skipped accounting in __block_write_full_page() Fengguang Wu
2007-08-13  1:03   ` David Chinner
     [not found]     ` <20070813103000.GA8520@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-13 10:30       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]       ` <20070817071317.GA8965@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-17  7:13         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070812092052.983296733@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11   ` [PATCH 4/6] check dirty inode list Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070812092053.113127445@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11   ` [PATCH 5/6] prevent time-ordering warnings Fengguang Wu
     [not found] ` <20070812092053.242474484@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-08-12  9:11   ` [PATCH 6/6] track redirty_tail() calls Fengguang Wu

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