From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
containers@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Send quota messages via netlink
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:46:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070829124615.GC7814@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D5126F.9000405@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Wed 29-08-07 12:00:07, Balbir Singh wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:13:18 +0200 Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> >> I'm sending rediffed patch implementing sending of quota messages via netlink
> >> interface (some rationale in patch description). I've already posted it to
> >> LKML some time ago and there were no objections, so I guess it's fine to put
> >> it to -mm. Andrew, would you be so kind? Thanks.
> >> Userspace deamon reading the messages from the kernel and sending them to
> >> dbus and/or user console is also written (it's part of quota-tools). The
> >> only remaining problem is there are a few changes needed to libnl needed for
> >> the userspace daemon. They were basically acked by the maintainer but it
> >> seems he has not merged the patches yet. So this will take a bit more time.
> >>
> >
> > So it's a new kernel->userspace interface.
> >
> > But we have no description of the interface :(
> >
>
> And could we have some description of the context under which all the message
> exchanges take place. When are these messages sent out -- what event
> is the user space notified of?
The user is notified about either exceeding his quota softlimit or
reaching hardlimit. If you are interested in more details, please ask.
> >> +/* Send warning to userspace about user which exceeded quota */
> >> +static void send_warning(const struct dquot *dquot, const char warntype)
> >> +{
> >> + static unsigned long seq;
> >> + struct sk_buff *skb;
> >> + void *msg_head;
> >> + int ret;
> >> +
> >> + skb = genlmsg_new(QUOTA_NL_MSG_SIZE, GFP_NOFS);
> >> + if (!skb) {
> >> + printk(KERN_ERR
> >> + "VFS: Not enough memory to send quota warning.\n");
> >> + return;
> >> + }
> >> + msg_head = genlmsg_put(skb, 0, seq++, "a_genl_family, 0, QUOTA_NL_C_WARNING);
> >> + if (!msg_head) {
> >> + printk(KERN_ERR
> >> + "VFS: Cannot store netlink header in quota warning.\n");
> >> + goto err_out;
>
> One problem, we've been is losing notifications. It does not happen for us
> due to the cpumask interface (which allows us to have parallel sockets
> for each cpu or a set of cpus). How frequent are your notifications?
Quite infrequent... Users won't exceed their quotas too often :).
> >> + }
> >> + ret = nla_put_u32(skb, QUOTA_NL_A_QTYPE, dquot->dq_type);
> >> + if (ret)
> >> + goto attr_err_out;
> >> + ret = nla_put_u64(skb, QUOTA_NL_A_EXCESS_ID, dquot->dq_id);
> >> + if (ret)
> >> + goto attr_err_out;
> >> + ret = nla_put_u32(skb, QUOTA_NL_A_WARNING, warntype);
> >> + if (ret)
> >> + goto attr_err_out;
> >> + ret = nla_put_u32(skb, QUOTA_NL_A_DEV_MAJOR,
> >> + MAJOR(dquot->dq_sb->s_dev));
> >> + if (ret)
> >> + goto attr_err_out;
> >> + ret = nla_put_u32(skb, QUOTA_NL_A_DEV_MINOR,
> >> + MINOR(dquot->dq_sb->s_dev));
> >> + if (ret)
> >> + goto attr_err_out;
> >> + ret = nla_put_u64(skb, QUOTA_NL_A_CAUSED_ID, current->user->uid);
> >> + if (ret)
> >> + goto attr_err_out;
> >> + genlmsg_end(skb, msg_head);
> >> +
>
> Have you looked at ensuring that the data structure works across 32 bit
> and 64 bit systems (in terms of binary compatibility)? That's usually
> a nice to have feature.
Generic netlink should take care of this - arguments are typed so it
knows how much bits numbers have. So this should be no issue. Are there any
other problems that you have in mind?
> >> + ret = genlmsg_multicast(skb, 0, quota_genl_family.id, GFP_NOFS);
> >> + if (ret < 0 && ret != -ESRCH)
> >> + printk(KERN_ERR
> >> + "VFS: Failed to send notification message: %d\n", ret);
> >> + return;
> >> +attr_err_out:
> >> + printk(KERN_ERR "VFS: Failed to compose quota message: %d\n", ret);
> >> +err_out:
> >> + kfree_skb(skb);
> >> +}
> >> +#endif
> >
> > This is it. Normally netlink payloads are represented as a struct. How
> > come this one is built-by-hand?
> >
> > It doesn't appear to be versioned. Should it be?
> >
>
> Yes, versioning is always nice and genetlink supports it.
>
> > Does it have (or need) reserved-set-to-zero space for expansion? Again,
> > hard to tell..
> >
> > I guess it's OK to send a major and minor out of the kernel like this.
> > What's it for? To represent a filesytem? I wonder if there's a more
> > modern and useful way of describing the fs. Path to mountpoint or
> > something?
> >
> > I suspect the namespace virtualisation guys would be interested in a new
> > interface which is sending current->user->uid up to userspace. uids are
> > per-namespace now. What are the implications? (cc's added)
>
> The memory controller or VM would also be interested in notifications
> of OOM. At OLS this year interest was shown in getting OOM notifications
> and allow the user space a chance to handle the notification and take
> action (especially for containers). We already have containerstats for
> containers (which I was planning to reuse), but I was told that we would
> be interested in user space OOM notifications in general.
Generic netlink can be used to pass this information (although in OOM
situation, it may be a bit hairy to get the network stack working...). But
I guess it's not related to my patch.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SuSE CR Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-29 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-28 14:13 [PATCH] Send quota messages via netlink Jan Kara
2007-08-29 4:13 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-29 4:54 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 5:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-29 6:30 ` Balbir Singh
2007-08-29 12:46 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2007-08-31 6:59 ` Balbir Singh
2007-09-03 10:18 ` Jan Kara
2007-08-29 12:26 ` Jan Kara
2007-08-29 15:57 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-29 18:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-29 19:26 ` Jan Kara
2007-08-29 21:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-29 21:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-08-30 9:25 ` Jan Kara
2007-08-30 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-30 18:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-08-30 19:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-08-30 19:10 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-08-30 22:18 ` Jan Kara
2007-08-30 22:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-03 14:21 ` Jan Kara
2007-09-04 21:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-04 22:49 ` Jan Kara
2007-09-04 23:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-09-05 13:32 ` Jan Kara
2007-09-05 14:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-08-29 4:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-29 10:03 ` Jan Kara
2007-09-03 14:43 ` Jan Kara
2007-09-03 17:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-03 17:48 ` Jan Kara
2007-09-03 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
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