From: Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>
To: Jakob Oestergaard <jakob@unthought.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>,
Hua Zhong <hzhong@gmail.com>,
"'Linux Kernel Mailing List'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: recent nfs change causes autofs regression
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:28:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070831082856.GB21499@janus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070831074028.GR21979@unthought.net>
On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 09:40:28AM +0200, Jakob Oestergaard wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:16:37PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> ...
> > > Why aren't we doing that for any other filesystem than NFS?
> >
> > How hard is it to acknowledge the following little word:
> >
> > "regression"
> >
> > It's simple. You broke things. You may want to fix them, but you need to
> > fix them in a way that does not break user space.
>
> Trond has a point Linus.
>
> What he "broke" is, for example, a ro mount being mounted as rw.
>
> That *could* be a very serious security (etc.etc.) problem which he just fixed.
> Anything depending on read-only not being enforced will cease to work, of
> course, and that is what a few people complain about(!).
>
> If ext3 in some rare case (which would still mean it hit a few thousand users)
> failed to remember that a file had been marked read-only and allowed writes to
> it, wouldn't we want to fix that too? It would cause regressions, but we'd fix
> it, right?
>
> mount passes back the error code on a failed mount. autofs passes that error
> along too (when people configure syslog correctly). In short; when these
> serious mistakes are made and caught, the admin sees an error in his logs.
Hua explained already that seeing the error is not the same as fixing
the error: he cannot fix it because NFS implies other systems we _must_
co-operate with.
--
Frank
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-31 8:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-30 21:07 recent nfs change causes autofs regression Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 22:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 22:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:30 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-30 23:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-30 23:44 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 4:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 4:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 5:09 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 7:50 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2007-08-31 1:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-31 4:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 3:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 3:57 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 4:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 4:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 5:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 5:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 7:40 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 8:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 8:51 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-08-31 16:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-03 13:20 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2007-09-03 13:43 ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 12:11 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 13:12 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 13:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 14:42 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-09-04 7:51 ` David Howells
2007-08-31 8:28 ` Frank van Maarseveen [this message]
2007-08-31 5:24 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 5:38 ` Ian Kent
2007-08-31 8:54 ` Martin Knoblauch
2007-08-31 16:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 19:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-04 8:02 ` David Howells
2007-09-04 8:35 ` David Howells
2007-09-04 9:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-31 18:47 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 19:35 ` Hua Zhong
2007-08-31 19:41 ` Hua Zhong
2007-09-02 0:58 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-04 7:54 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 12:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-05 15:34 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 12:44 ` Ian Kent
2007-09-05 15:37 ` David Howells
2007-09-05 15:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-06 5:23 ` Ian Kent
2007-09-05 16:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-31 8:14 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2007-08-31 9:05 ` Ian Kent
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