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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	sam@ravnborg.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] build system: section garbage collection for vmlinux
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:39:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070906203931.GE4480@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070906204349.GO475@flower.upol.cz>

On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 10:43:49PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:21:43PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> []
> > > You've did a tool. Documenting this tool to have it available for
> > > testers/janitors/maintainers is a better way, than to have all that
> > > opinions/problems with merging-to-mainline.
> > 
> > There is no problem with his patch.
> > 
> > His patch improves the build process.
> 
> I would like to know timing, btw. Size, especially shown 1%, doesn't
> matter if link time increased dramatically. `Allyes' config, when i
> had fast and rammish machine was terrible thing (last winter). If 32
> cores/cpus is will of author, then i'm even more suspicious.

For non-developers size and speed of the kernel matter much more than 
compile time.

When you go towards embedded systems with limited resources a 1% size 
decrease would often be worth it even if it would (hypothetically) 
increase the compile time by a factor of 10.

>...
> > > > I don't understand why you are opposed to toolchain helping
> > > > humans to get optimized result. But it's fine with me.
> > > > I won't force anyone to select CONFIG_DISCARD_UNUSED_SECTIONS.
> > > 
> > > That's why. It's treating symptoms, isn't it?
> > 
> > There's nothing that requires treatment.
> 
> [Help for] The developers/contributors of those drivers, no?
>...

They did everything right.

You should better try to understand the problem first before behaving as 
if you knew everything better than everyone else...

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-06 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-05 13:43 [PATCH 0/3] build system: section garbage collection for vmlinux Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 13:49   ` [PATCH 2/3] " Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 13:55     ` [PATCH 3/3] " Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 18:40       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 20:46         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-06 10:55           ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-06 22:33             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-10 12:01             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-10 19:02               ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-10 19:14                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-11 11:23                   ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-11 11:55                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-05 20:07   ` [PATCH 1/3] " Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-06 10:59     ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-06 22:36       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-08 15:02     ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 15:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Oleg Verych
2007-09-05 18:46   ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 20:34     ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-05 21:52       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-06 10:55       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-06 11:40         ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-06 12:21           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-06 20:43             ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-06 20:39               ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-09-06 21:16                 ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-06 21:19                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-06 22:01                     ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-06 22:43                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-06 12:33           ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 16:29 ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-05 18:37   ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 18:38     ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-05 19:14       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 19:07         ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-05 19:49           ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-05 19:46             ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-06 10:57               ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-06 15:13                 ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-06 17:07                   ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-07 16:31                     ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-07 17:24                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-07 17:19                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-07 17:30                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-09-07 17:38                         ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-05 19:31         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-05 19:24           ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-05 19:46             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-05 19:27 ` Adrian Bunk

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