From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] dynamic data structure switching
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:58:14 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070910165814.GA347@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> +void *dyn_data_replace(struct dyn_data *dd, dd_transfer_fn fn, void *new)
> +{
> + int xfer_done;
> + void *old;
> +
> + BUG_ON(!mutex_is_locked(&dd->resize_mutex));
> + old = dd->cur;
> + BUG_ON(dd->old);
> + dd->old = old;
> + synchronize_rcu();
> + rcu_assign_pointer(dd->cur, new);
I think this all is correct, but I have a somewhat offtopic question, hopefully
you can help.
Suppose that we have a global "pid_t NR = 0", and another CPU does
pid = alloc_pid();
wmb();
NR = pid->nr;
Suppose that this CPU sees dd->cur == new, and adds the new item to it.
Now, yet another CPU does:
nr = NR;
rmb();
BUG_ON(nr && !find_pind(nr));
dyn_data_replace() didn't do synchronize_rcu() yet. The question is: how it is
possible to "prove" that the BUG_ON() above can't happen? IOW, why find_pind()
above must also see dd->cur == new if it sees NR != 0 ?
Once again, I believe this is true, but I can't find a "good" explanation for
myself. To simplify the example above, consider:
A = B = X = 0;
P = Q = &A;
CPU_1 CPU_2 CPU_3
P = &B; *P = 1; if (X) {
wmb(); rmb();
X = 1; BUG_ON(*P != 1 && *Q != 1);
}
So, it is not possible that CPU_2 sees P == &B, but CPU_3 sees P == &A in this
case, yes?
It looks "obvious" that rmb() guarantees that CPU_3 must see the new value if
any other CPU (CPU_2) already saw it "before", but I can't derive this from the
"all the LOAD operations specified before the barrier will appear to happen
before all the LOAD operations specified after the barrier" definition.
Thanks,
Oleg.
next reply other threads:[~2007-09-10 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-10 16:58 Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-09-10 20:48 ` [rfc][patch] dynamic data structure switching Nick Piggin
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2007-09-02 18:27 Nick Piggin
2007-09-02 18:36 ` Nick Piggin
2007-09-10 11:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-10 13:39 ` Nick Piggin
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