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From: Johannes Stezenbach <js@linuxtv.org>
To: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dâniel Fraga" <fragabr@gmail.com>,
	video4linux-list@redhat.com, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:40:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070913124034.GA26972@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9def9db0709122258l4b05546dq2e370e67a2a1404@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote:
> 
> We currently have an implementation that works, although
> it works by downloading several firmwares for several devices 
> or even several countries. This is not what I want to have in 
> future since it's not needed and it's also hard to manage for
> distributors. All those differences could be adjusted by 
> software even without module parameter hacks.

This argument doesn't hold water. The unpleasant point
for users and distributors isn't the "binary-only"
thing, it's the "no right to distribute" problem.
And that's the same for firmware blobs or binary-only
userspace blobs.

IOW, if you can get the right to redistribute a binary-only
userspace blob which incudes the firmware inside, why
shouldn't you be able to get the right to redistribute
just the firmware?

Or the other way round: Do you think your binary-only software
will be important enough so distributors will go through
all the trouble of trying to get a license to include it in
their distribution? If so, why wouldn't they do the same
for the plain firmware blobs for in-kernel drivers?


Johannes

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-13 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <46C1BCC5.9090709@amd.com>
     [not found] ` <1189626560.5160.57.camel@gaivota>
     [not found]   ` <d9def9db0709121546h67d3d1ceuf001ab1d798fde92@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-12 23:10     ` [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13  4:58       ` Dâniel Fraga
     [not found]         ` <d9def9db0709122258l4b05546dq2e370e67a2a1404@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-13 12:40           ` Johannes Stezenbach [this message]
2007-09-13 13:17             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-17 22:05         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-13 13:13       ` [linux-dvb] " Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-13 14:12         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 15:50           ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-13 16:08             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 16:22               ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-13 16:32                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-13 16:52                   ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-13 20:36               ` Steven Toth
2007-09-13 23:17                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14  1:03                   ` Steven Toth
2007-09-14  6:38                     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14  7:57                       ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14  9:15                         ` Joerg Roedel
2007-09-14 12:00                           ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 16:09                             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 18:52                               ` Alex Deucher
2007-09-14 18:59                                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 19:38                                   ` Alex Deucher
2007-09-14 16:13                             ` Joerg Roedel
2007-09-14 16:56                               ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 17:40                                 ` Joerg Roedel
2007-09-14 11:38                       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-14 16:36                         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 17:32                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-14 17:46                             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-14 18:29                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-14 19:20                                 ` Michael Krufky
2007-09-14 21:07                                   ` Aidan Thornton
2007-09-14 21:16                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-14 21:53                                     ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-14 20:43                           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-15  1:29                             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15  1:49                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 13:16                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-15 13:38                                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 14:04                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 14:33                                     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15 14:45                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 16:58                                     ` Bernard Jungen
2007-09-16 11:30                                       ` Hans Verkuil
2007-09-17  8:46                                       ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15  1:49                             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15  3:09                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-15 12:59                                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-15  8:52                               ` Manu Abraham
2007-09-15 13:34                               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-09-15 14:56                                 ` Steven Toth
2007-09-14 13:52                   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-14 16:18                     ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-18  8:19                       ` Jelle Foks
2007-09-18  8:55                         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-09-18 22:56                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-09-18 23:00                           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-14  0:49                 ` hermann pitton
2007-09-14 12:10                 ` Alan Cox

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