From: Paul Rolland <rol@as2917.net>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
Folkert van Heusden <folkert@vanheusden.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
rol@witbe.net
Subject: Re: sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:04:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070915080448.37457dcf@tux.DEF.witbe.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070914151522.GL3563@stusta.de>
Hello,
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:15:22 +0200
Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 04:54:07PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
> > Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:11:44PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > >> Let's step back a moment and consider the actual scale and impact of
> > >> the problem at hand.
> Do "make menuconfig" with the .config you are normally using, count the
> number of options that are visible, and ask yourself whether we can
> really expect users to read the help texts for every single option shown.
>
> People mostly read help texts for options where they don't understand
> what this option is about - and "Serial ATA" therefore is an option that
> is likely to get enabled without the user looking at the help text.
>
As a "make menuconfig" user, let me say that I agree. Of course, I'm used
to rebuild kernel, but sometimes, some options are not clear, and the help
text is searched for. But, getting too much of "No help text available"
usually results in people no more reading the help text.
What about splitting the screen to have the top half with the menu, and the
bottom half with the help ?
Paul
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-15 8:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-07 12:48 sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig Folkert van Heusden
2007-09-07 14:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-07 14:58 ` Folkert van Heusden
2007-09-07 19:38 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-07 23:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-08 7:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-07 15:35 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-07 15:59 ` Folkert van Heusden
2007-09-07 16:21 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-07 23:05 ` Folkert van Heusden
2007-09-08 7:05 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 7:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-08 7:56 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 16:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-08 16:44 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 16:48 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-08 19:45 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 8:43 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-13 8:50 ` Helge Hafting
2007-09-14 16:42 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2007-09-14 18:44 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 16:07 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-08 16:50 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-08 16:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-09-08 18:13 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-08 18:30 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 19:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-08 19:32 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-09 21:00 ` James Bottomley
2007-09-09 21:03 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-09 21:11 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-09 21:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-09 21:39 ` James Bottomley
2007-09-10 6:38 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-10 12:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-09-11 20:16 ` Bauke Jan Douma
2007-09-12 22:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-14 14:54 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 15:15 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-14 15:37 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 16:01 ` [PATCH] SCSI: update Kconfig help text to indicate SCSI core's widespread usage Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 16:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-14 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 18:04 ` [PATCH] SCSI: trailing whitespace in Kconfig Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 19:00 ` [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-14 19:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-14 20:01 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 11:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-15 12:24 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 12:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-15 13:20 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 13:53 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-15 14:11 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 14:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-15 15:27 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 15:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-15 16:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-15 16:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-09-15 19:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-15 20:54 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-09-16 20:12 ` Greg KH
2007-09-15 16:42 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-17 11:29 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-09-17 14:46 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 20:20 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 21:22 ` [PATCH update] " Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 18:54 ` [PATCH] SCSI: update Kconfig help text to indicate SCSI core's widespread usage Lennart Sorensen
2007-09-14 20:14 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 20:21 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-09-14 21:06 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 21:11 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-09-14 21:14 ` [PATCH update] " Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 22:02 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-09-15 6:16 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 10:52 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-09-15 12:30 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 12:53 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-09-15 12:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-15 13:19 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-14 16:16 ` sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig Adrian Bunk
2007-09-14 16:50 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 8:04 ` Paul Rolland [this message]
2007-09-15 8:25 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 13:00 ` Paul Rolland
2007-09-15 15:50 ` x86_64 usability bug: Kconfig prompt without help text (was Re: sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig) Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 16:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-15 17:13 ` [PATCH] x86_64: configure HPET_EMULATE_RTC automatically Stefan Richter
2007-09-15 18:23 ` sata & scsi suggestion for make menuconfig david
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2007-09-08 3:52 Al Boldi
2007-09-08 13:47 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-08 14:03 ` Al Boldi
2007-09-08 16:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-09 4:11 ` Al Boldi
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2007-09-08 16:52 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-09-08 18:22 ` Stefan Richter
2007-09-08 18:54 ` Randy Dunlap
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