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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:52:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070918165220.GE18476@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190132095.6656.12.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:14:55PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> Note also that strictly speaking, we're not even compliant with the
> System V behaviour on read() and write(). See:
> 
>   http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/nfs/ch11_01.htm
> and
>   http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/801-6736/6i13fom0a?l=en&a=view&q=mandatory+lock
> 
> According to these docs, we should be wrapping each and every read() and
> write() syscall with a mandatory lock. The fact that we're not, and yet
> still not seeing any complaints just goes to show how few people are
> actually using and relying on this...

So currently there's nothing to prevent this:

				- write passes locks_mandatory_area() checks
	- get mandatory lock
	- read old data
				- write updates file data
	- read new data

You can see the data change even while you hold a mandatory lock that
should exclude writes.

Similarly you might think that an application could prevent anyone from
seeing the intermediate state of a file while it performs a series of
writes under an exclusive mandatory lock, but actually there's nothing
to stop a read in progress from racing with acquisition of the lock.

Unless I'm missing something, that makes our mandatory lock
implementation pretty pointless.  I wish we could either fix it or just
ditch it, but I suppose either option would be unpopular.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-18 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-17  8:13 [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2) Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 13:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-17 14:16   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 16:00     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18  6:33       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-18 15:19         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:14           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 16:52             ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-09-18 16:54               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 17:40                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 18:38                   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-25 16:55                   ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 16:56                     ` [PATCH 2/2] locks: add warning about mandatory locking races J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 17:12                     ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ Randy Dunlap
2007-09-25 17:24                       ` J. Bruce Fields

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