From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2)
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:40:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070918174016.GF18476@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190134496.6656.22.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:54:56PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 12:52 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > So currently there's nothing to prevent this:
> >
> > - write passes locks_mandatory_area() checks
> > - get mandatory lock
> > - read old data
> > - write updates file data
> > - read new data
> >
> > You can see the data change even while you hold a mandatory lock that
> > should exclude writes.
> >
> > Similarly you might think that an application could prevent anyone from
> > seeing the intermediate state of a file while it performs a series of
> > writes under an exclusive mandatory lock, but actually there's nothing
> > to stop a read in progress from racing with acquisition of the lock.
> >
> > Unless I'm missing something, that makes our mandatory lock
> > implementation pretty pointless. I wish we could either fix it or just
> > ditch it, but I suppose either option would be unpopular.
>
> It gets even better when you throw mmap() into the mix :-)
Hm. Documentation/mandatory.txt claims that it mandatory locks and
mmap() with MAP_SHARED exclude each other, but I can't see where that's
enfoced. That file doesn't make any mention of the above race.
So for now I think someone should update that file and fcntl(2) to
mention these problems and to recommend rather strongly against using
mandatory locking.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-18 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-17 8:13 [PATCH] Wake up mandatory locks waiter on chmod (v2) Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 13:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-17 14:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-17 16:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 6:33 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-09-18 15:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 16:52 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-18 16:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-18 17:40 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-09-18 18:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-09-25 16:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 16:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] locks: add warning about mandatory locking races J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-25 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: move mandatory locking documentation to filesystems/ Randy Dunlap
2007-09-25 17:24 ` J. Bruce Fields
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