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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Nick Piggin" <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/6] lockdep: validate rcu_dereference() vs rcu_read_lock()
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:25:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070919172537.3dceb0d3@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000709190816o2899f85fpb8ae88cbf9a18830@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:16:21 -0400 "Dmitry Torokhov"
<dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/19/07, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:17:25 -0400 "Dmitry Torokhov"
> > <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > On 9/19/07, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > > > Warn when rcu_dereference() is not used in combination with rcu_read_lock()
> > > >
> > >
> > > According to Paul it is fine to use RCU primitives (when accompanied
> > > with proper comments) when the read-size critical section is guarded
> > > by spin_lock_irqsave()/spin_lock_irqsrestore() instead of
> > > rcu_read_lock()/rcu_read_unlock() and writers synchronize with
> > > synchronize_sched(), not synchronize_rcu(). Your patch will trigger
> > > warnign on such valid usages.
> > >
> >
> > Sounds fragile to begin with. But you're right in that that is valid
> > for Linux as you know it. However in -rt most/all spinlocks are
> > converted to sleeping locks. In that case sync_sched() is not enough.
> >
> 
> OK, then it goes beyond RCU... We need to come up with something that
> can be used to synchronize with IRQ handlers (quite often in driver
> code one needs to be sure that current invocation of IRQ handler
> completed before doing something). And once we have it splinlock + RCU
> users can just use that method.

Sound like you want a completion or workqueue.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-19 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-19 10:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/6] using lockdep to validate rcu usage Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 10:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6] lockdep: annotate rcu_read_{,un}lock{,_bh} Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 23:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-19 10:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6] lockdep: validate rcu_dereference() vs rcu_read_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 14:17   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 14:31     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 15:16       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 15:25         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-09-19 15:37         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-19 16:59           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 17:32             ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-19 17:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-19 18:49                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 19:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 19:49                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 20:13                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 20:41                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 21:19                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 21:29                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-19 21:47                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-20 17:31                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-21  0:01                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-21 14:15                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-09-21 14:30                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 20:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-19 10:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6] lockdep: rcu_dereference() vs preempt_disable() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 10:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6] implicit vs explicit preempt_disable() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 10:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6] fixup funny preemption tricks in irq_exit Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 10:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6] fixup early boot Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-19 13:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6] using lockdep to validate rcu usage Ingo Molnar

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