From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753949AbXISVVV (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:21:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751613AbXISVVO (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:21:14 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:43934 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751148AbXISVVN (ORCPT ); Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:21:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:19:43 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Dmitry Torokhov" Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Ingo Molnar" , "Andrew Morton" , "Nick Piggin" Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/6] lockdep: validate rcu_dereference() vs rcu_read_lock() Message-ID: <20070919231943.4b121361@lappy> In-Reply-To: References: <20070919104125.286538000@chello.nl> <20070919153750.GB8666@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20070919173249.GE8666@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20070919174857.GA11922@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20070919214110.5d832f28@lappy> <20070919221349.2935f69d@lappy> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.11.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:41:04 -0400 "Dmitry Torokhov" wrote: > > If the IRQ handler does rcu_read_lock(),unlock() and the i8042_stop() > > function does sync_rcu() instead of _sched(), it should be good again. > > It will not affect anything else than the task that calls _stop(). And > > even there the only change is that the sleep might be a tad longer. > > And the IRQ handler needs to do some extra job... Anyway, it looks -rt > breaks synchronize_sched() and needs to have it fixed: > > "/** > * synchronize_sched - block until all CPUs have exited any non-preemptive > * kernel code sequences. > * > * This means that all preempt_disable code sequences, including NMI and > * hardware-interrupt handlers, in progress on entry will have completed > * before this primitive returns." That still does as it says in -rt. Its just that the interrupt handler will be preemptible so the guarantees it gives are useless. > > I find it curious that a driver that is 'low performant' and does not > > suffer lock contention pioneers locking schemes. I agree with > > optimizing, but this is not the place to push the envelope. > > Please realize that evey microsecond wasted on a 'low performant' > driver is taken from high performers and if we can help it why > shouldn't we? sure, but the cache eviction caused by running the driver will have more impact than the added rcu_read_{,un}lock() calls.