From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: linux-tiny@selenic.com
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Opdenacker <michael@free-electrons.com>,
CE Linux Developers List <celinux-dev@tree.celinuxforum.org>
Subject: Re: Monster switch for small size (was Linux-tiny revival)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709201641.22580.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46F2A99A.3080400@am.sony.com>
On Thursday 20 September 2007 12:10:50 pm Tim Bird wrote:
> Andy Whitcroft wrote:
> > Knowing nothing about these options, from a test perspective it would
> > be nice if we were able to simply enable "the lot" so we can do "normal"
> > -mm runs and "tiny" -mm runs without any manual intervention?
>
> I agree completely.
>
> I have been thinking for a while about how to make a "monster switch"
> (the kind they always seem to have in Frankenstein movies) that
> switches a whole bunch of settings at once. We currently have methods
> in the kernel for:
> * default (or recommended) config for a particular platform
> * all yes - to build as much as possible
> * all no - to build as little as possible
>
> The problem with "allno" is that it rarely produces a usable
> kernel.
Beyond that, allno doesn't come close to switching everything off.
1) You have to _enable_ CONFIG_EMBEDDED in order to go into that menu and
switch _off_ the stuff in there.
2) The stuff CONFIG_EMBEDDED reveals isn't all in that menu. CONFIG_BLOCK is
at the top level menu. CONFIG_VT and CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS are buried down
under device drivers->character devices, and there's more sprinkled all over.
You have to track it all down and switch it off to get an _actual_
allnoconfig kernel.
(I cut the bit where you reinvent miniconfig. People keep doing this. I dig
it up and resubmit it every year or so, so Roman Zippel can shoot it down
again. Meanwhile, not only is Firmware Linux happily using it, but I even
wrote more documentation at
http://landley.net/code/firmware/new_platform.html although you have to
scroll down a bit to get to the stuff about miniconfig...)
Rob
--
"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
- Ken Thompson.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-20 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-19 18:03 [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Tim Bird
2007-09-19 18:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-19 19:31 ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 19:01 ` Christian MICHON
2007-09-19 19:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-19 19:41 ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 20:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-19 21:29 ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 22:29 ` Michael Opdenacker
2007-09-19 21:28 ` [Celinux-dev] " Andrew Morton
2007-09-19 21:41 ` Tim Bird
2007-09-19 22:38 ` Michael Opdenacker
2007-09-20 9:10 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-09-20 17:10 ` Monster switch for small size (was Linux-tiny revival) Tim Bird
2007-09-20 21:41 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-09-20 20:50 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-09-21 6:35 ` Christian MICHON
2007-09-20 23:02 ` [Celinux-dev] [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Rob Landley
2007-09-20 20:38 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 19:58 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-20 20:22 ` printk proposal - (was Linux-tiny project revival) Tim Bird
2007-09-21 19:07 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-21 20:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 22:02 ` [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Rob Landley
2007-09-20 21:22 ` Jared Hulbert
2007-09-20 22:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 22:15 ` [Celinux-dev] " Gross, Mark
2007-09-21 0:57 ` Message codes (Re: [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival) Oleg Verych
2007-09-21 14:18 ` Gross, Mark
2007-09-21 21:15 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 22:12 ` Gross, Mark
2007-09-21 22:33 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 22:39 ` Gross, Mark
2007-09-22 1:55 ` Oleg Verych
2007-09-21 13:29 ` [Announce] Linux-tiny project revival Dick Streefland
2007-09-20 20:16 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-25 11:43 ` [Celinux-dev] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-09-20 21:26 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-09-20 23:18 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-20 23:06 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-09-21 6:29 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-24 18:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-26 6:24 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 17:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-21 17:45 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 23:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 23:08 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 21:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-21 22:05 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 22:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-09-20 21:58 ` Tim Bird
2007-09-20 22:14 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-21 0:28 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 0:03 ` Joe Perches
2007-09-20 23:11 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-21 12:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-27 7:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-27 16:35 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-09-27 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-09-28 8:39 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-09-30 20:37 ` Jörn Engel
2007-09-28 0:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-09-28 14:36 ` Dick Streefland
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