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From: "David Härdeman" <david@hardeman.nu>
To: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.linux.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@lina.inka.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	geoff@gclare.org.uk, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	vda.linux@googlemail.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>,
	mtk-manpages@gmx.net
Subject: Re: RFC: A revised timerfd API
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:37:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070922233744.GA2218@hardeman.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517f3f820709220907l4c4e693di3df6942bdca5bcfa@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 06:07:14PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
>On 9/22/07, Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@lina.inka.de> wrote:
>> In article <46F514C9.5010208@gmx.net> you wrote:
>> >  1. This design stretches the POSIX timers API in strange
>> >     ways.
>>
>> Maybe it is possible to reimplement the POSIX API in usermode using the
>> kernel's FD implementation?
>
>It's a clever idea...  Without thinking on it too long, I'm not sure
>whether or not there might be some details which would make this
>difficult.

It seems to be a dangerous idea. It has the potential of breaking 
userspace applications that rely on POSIX timers not creating fd's.

Image code like this:

	/* Close stdin, stdout, stderr */
	close(0);
	close(1);
	close(2);

	/* Oh, a timer would be nice */
	timer_create(x, y, z);

	/* Create new stdin, stdout, stderr */
	fd = open("/dev/null", flags);
	dup(fd);
	dup(fd);

Unless timer_create does some magic to avoid using the lowest available 
fd, this would suddenly break as the timerfd would be fd 0.

-- 
David Härdeman

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-01 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-18  7:27 RFC: A revised timerfd API Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-18  7:30 ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-18  8:05   ` David Härdeman
2007-09-18  9:01     ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-18  9:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-18  9:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-18  9:30     ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-18  9:42       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-18 11:08         ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-18 11:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-18 13:13             ` David Härdeman
2007-09-22 13:03               ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-18 16:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-09-22 13:12   ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-22 14:32     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-09-22 16:07       ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-22 17:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-22 23:37         ` David Härdeman [this message]
2007-09-22 17:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-22 21:07     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-09-22 21:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-09-22 23:21         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-09-23 17:33       ` Michael Kerrisk
2007-09-23 18:33         ` Davide Libenzi
2007-09-23 18:41           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-09-23 19:03             ` Michael Kerrisk

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