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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [git] CFS-devel, latest code
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:40:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070925094040.GA28391@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070925094440.GK26289@linux.vnet.ibm.com>


* Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:13:31AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > ok, i'm too seeing some sort of latency weirdness with 
> > CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED enabled, _if_ there's Xorg involved which runs 
> > under root uid on my box - and hence gets 50% of all CPU time.
> > 
> > Srivatsa, any ideas? It could either be an accounting buglet (less 
> > likely, seems like the group scheduling bits stick to the 50% splitup 
> > nicely), or a preemption buglet. One potential preemption buglet would 
> > be for the group scheduler to not properly preempt a running task when a 
> > task from another uid is woken?
> 
> Yep, I noticed that too.
> 
> check_preempt_wakeup()
> {
> 	...
> 
> 	if (is_same_group(curr, p)) {
> 	    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> 		resched_task();
> 	}
> 
> }
> 
> Will try a fix to check for preemption at higher levels ..

i bet fixing this will increase precision of group scheduling as well. 
Those long latencies can be thought of as noise as well, and the 
fair-scheduling "engine" might not be capable to offset all sources of 
noise. So generally, while we allow a certain amount of lag in 
preemption decisions (wakeup-granularity, etc.), with which the fairness 
engine will cope just fine, we do not want to allow unlimited lag.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-25  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-24 21:45 [git] CFS-devel, latest code Ingo Molnar
2007-09-24 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-24 21:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25  0:08 ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-25  6:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25 15:17     ` Daniel Walker
2007-09-25  6:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25  7:35   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25  8:33     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25  8:53       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25  9:11         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25  9:15           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25  9:12         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25  9:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25  9:17         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25  9:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25 10:02             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-26  8:04             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-28 21:46             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-09-25  9:44         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25  9:40           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-09-25 10:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25 10:28               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25 10:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25 11:33                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25 14:48                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25 12:51                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25 13:35                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25 14:07                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25 12:28                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-09-25 12:54                   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                     ` <20070925131717.GM26289@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                       ` <1190725693.13716.10.camel@Homer.simpson.net>
     [not found]                         ` <20070925132528.GN26289@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                           ` <1190726682.11260.1.camel@Homer.simpson.net>
     [not found]                             ` <20070925140559.GB26310@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]                               ` <20070925143755.GA15594@elte.hu>
     [not found]                                 ` <20070926210737.GA8663@elte.hu>
2007-10-01 14:04                                   ` [RFC/PATCH] Add sysfs control to modify a user's cpu share Dhaval Giani
2007-10-01 14:44                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 15:32                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-10-02 22:12                                       ` Eric St-Laurent
2007-10-03  4:09                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-10-03 17:10                                       ` [RFC/PATCH -v2] " Dhaval Giani
2007-10-04  7:57                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-04  8:54                                           ` Heiko Carstens
2007-10-04 16:02                                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-04 17:20                                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-10-04 21:32                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-05  7:01                                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-10-09 15:12                                             ` [PATCH sched-devel] Generate uevents for user creation/destruction Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-10-10  7:42                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-01 16:12                                     ` [RFC/PATCH] Add sysfs control to modify a user's cpu share Dave Jones
2007-10-01 16:37                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25  6:50 ` [git] CFS-devel, latest code S.Çağlar Onur
2007-09-25  9:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25  7:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-25  8:43   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25  8:48     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-25 11:00     ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-09-25 14:44 Ingo Molnar
2007-09-25 16:04 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25 16:08   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-09-25 21:35 Dmitry Adamushko
2007-09-27  7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-30 19:13 Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-01  6:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-30 19:15 Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-01  5:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-10-01  5:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-30 19:18 Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-02 19:49 Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-02 19:59 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2007-10-03  4:15   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-10-04  7:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-04  7:41 ` Ingo Molnar

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