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From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
To: Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@bull.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@sw.ru>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: IPC: sleeping function called ...
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:47:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070925114705.GA3148@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46F7885F.4080906@bull.net>

On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:50:23AM +0200, Nadia Derbey wrote:
> Jarek Poplawski wrote:
...
> >2. I'm not sure this refcounting with ipc_rcu_getref/putref is SMP
> >safe (memory barriers): it's not atomic, so locking is needed, but
> >e.g. in do_msgsnd() kern_ipc_perm lock is used for this, while
> >freeque() calls ipc_rcu_putref() with ipc_ids mutex only.
> >
> >3. Probably similar problem is possible with msr_d.r_msg which is
> >read in do_msgrcv() under rcu_read_lock() only.
> >
> 
> In think here they have avoided refcoutning by using r_msg:
> r_msg is initialzed to -EAGAIN before releasing the msq lock. if 
> freequeue() is called it sets r_msg to EIDRM (see expunge_all(-EIDRM)).
> Setting r_msg is always done under the msq lock (expunge_all() / 
> pipelined_Sned()).
>  Since rcu_read_lock is called right after schedule, they are sure the 
> msq pointer is still valid when they re-lock it once a msg is present in 
> the receive queue.
> 
> Please tell me if I'm not clear ;-)

All clear!

Except... this r_msg is still unclear to me. Since it's read without
msq lock I doubt this first check after schedule() is of any value. A
comment: "Lockless receive, part 2" tells about some safety against a
race with pipeline_send() and expunge_all() when in wake_up_process(),
but how can we be sure this r_msg is not just to be changed and this
wake_up_process() is running while "while" check still sees
ERR_PTR(-EAGAIN) instead of NULL?

Thanks & sorry for delay,
Jarek P.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-25 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-18  9:17 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: IPC: sleeping function called Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-18  9:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 10:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 10:30   ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-18 10:34     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20070918142451.418b3b51@twins>
2007-09-18 16:13         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 16:57           ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 18:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 19:41               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 20:26               ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: annotate rcu_read_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 20:27               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] lockdep: rcu_dereference() vs rcu_read_lock() Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-18 21:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-09-18 10:27 ` 2.6.23-rc6-mm1: IPC: sleeping function called Andrew Morton
2007-09-18 10:32   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-09-18 14:55   ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-18 17:01     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-21  9:18       ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-19 14:07     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20  6:24       ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-20  7:28         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20  8:21           ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20  8:52           ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-20 13:08             ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-20 13:26               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-21  8:44               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-21 10:11                 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-21 11:03                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-21 11:15                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-24  6:54                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-24  7:43                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-24  8:18                       ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-24  9:50                 ` Nadia Derbey
2007-09-25 11:47                   ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2007-09-26  6:13                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-09-20 13:19             ` Jarek Poplawski

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