From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Chakri n <chakriin5@gmail.com>,
linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
nfs@lists.sourceforge.net,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:49:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070928114930.2c201324.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1190998853.6702.17.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:00:53 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 23:50 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > Actually we perhaps could address this at the VFS level in another way.
> > Processes which are writing to the dead NFS server will eventually block in
> > balance_dirty_pages() once they've exceeded the memory limits and will
> > remain blocked until the server wakes up - that's the behaviour we want.
> >
> > What we _don't_ want to happen is for other processes which are writing to
> > other, non-dead devices to get collaterally blocked. We have patches which
> > might fix that queued for 2.6.24. Peter?
>
> Do these patches also cause the memory reclaimers to steer clear of
> devices that are congested (and stop waiting on a congested device if
> they see that it remains congested for a long period of time)? Most of
> the collateral blocking I see tends to happen in memory allocation...
>
No, they don't attempt to do that, but I suspect they put in place
infrastructure which could be used to improve direct-reclaimer latency. In
the throttle_vm_writeout() path, at least.
Do you know where the stalls are occurring? throttle_vm_writeout(), or via
direct calls to congestion_wait() from page_alloc.c and vmscan.c? (running
sysrq-w five or ten times will probably be enough to determine this)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-28 18:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-28 6:32 A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Chakri n
2007-09-28 6:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 6:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 8:27 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 9:01 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 9:20 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 9:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 10:36 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 13:28 ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-09-28 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 16:45 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-09-29 1:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-28 18:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 17:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 18:49 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-09-28 18:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 19:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-02 15:42 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-03 9:28 ` [PATCH] lockstat: documentation Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-03 9:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-28 19:16 ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 19:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 19:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:32 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 21:36 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 23:33 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 20:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29 1:51 ` KDB? Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29 0:46 ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Daniel Phillips
[not found] ` <20070929110454.GA29861@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-29 11:04 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-29 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20070929122842.GA5454@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-29 12:28 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-29 14:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 15:57 ` Chuck Ebbert
[not found] ` <20071002020040.GA5275@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 2:00 ` [PATCH] writeback: avoid possible balance_dirty_pages() lockup on a light-load bdi Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 2:14 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20071002121327.GA5718@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 12:13 ` Fengguang Wu
[not found] ` <20071002132702.GA10967@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 13:27 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 18:35 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-03 12:46 ` richard kennedy
[not found] ` <20071004015053.GA5789@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-04 1:50 ` Fengguang Wu
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