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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Chakri n <chakriin5@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	nfs@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070928122628.965137f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191006971.6702.25.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:16:11 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:

> On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 11:49 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:00:53 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> > > Do these patches also cause the memory reclaimers to steer clear of
> > > devices that are congested (and stop waiting on a congested device if
> > > they see that it remains congested for a long period of time)? Most of
> > > the collateral blocking I see tends to happen in memory allocation...
> > > 
> > 
> > No, they don't attempt to do that, but I suspect they put in place
> > infrastructure which could be used to improve direct-reclaimer latency.  In
> > the throttle_vm_writeout() path, at least.
> > 
> > Do you know where the stalls are occurring?  throttle_vm_writeout(), or via
> > direct calls to congestion_wait() from page_alloc.c and vmscan.c?  (running
> > sysrq-w five or ten times will probably be enough to determine this)
> 
> Looking back, they were getting caught up in
> balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() and friends. See the attached
> example...

that one is nfs-on-loopback, which is a special case, isn't it?

NFS on loopback used to hang, but then we fixed it.  It looks like we
broke it again sometime in the intervening four years or so.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-28 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-28  6:32 A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Chakri n
2007-09-28  6:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28  6:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  8:27     ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  8:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  9:01         ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  9:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  9:20             ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  9:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 10:36                 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 13:28   ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-09-28 13:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 16:45       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-09-29  1:27       ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-28 18:04     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 17:00   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 18:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 18:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 19:16         ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-02 13:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-02 15:42             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-10-03  9:28               ` [PATCH] lockstat: documentation Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-03  9:35                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-09-28 19:16       ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 19:26         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-09-28 19:52           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:10             ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:32               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 21:36                   ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 23:33                     ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 20:24             ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29  1:51         ` KDB? Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29  0:46   ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Daniel Phillips
     [not found] ` <20070929110454.GA29861@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-29 11:04   ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-29 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20070929122842.GA5454@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-09-29 12:28         ` Fengguang Wu
2007-09-29 14:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-01 15:57     ` Chuck Ebbert
     [not found]       ` <20071002020040.GA5275@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02  2:00         ` [PATCH] writeback: avoid possible balance_dirty_pages() lockup on a light-load bdi Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02  2:14           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <20071002121327.GA5718@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 12:13               ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]               ` <20071002132702.GA10967@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-02 13:27                 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-10-02 18:35                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-03 12:46         ` richard kennedy
     [not found]           ` <20071004015053.GA5789@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-10-04  1:50             ` Fengguang Wu

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