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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: casey@schaufler-ca.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:42:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200709301042.26473.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070930011618.ccb8351b.akpm@linux-foundation.org>


> - Smack.txt and the website seem a bit skimpy.  Is there enough
>   documentation out there for someone to usefully (and, more importantly,
>   safely) start using smack?

Yes that's the important thing.

> - In his review of version 1, Andi suggested that your ruleset traversal
>   be protected by RCU.  But it seems that this wasn't done.  Were the races
>   which he identified fixed by other means?  If so, what were they?

The issue was moot because rulesets never get removed in the current 
implementation. I had missed that. If that ever changes RCU would be likely 
needed though.

> - hm, netlabels.  Who might be a suitable person to review that code?
>   Seems that Paul Moore is the man.  Maybe he'd be interested in taking a
>   look over it (please?)

I personally consider these IP options it uses to be pretty useless. Who could 
ever use that without cryptographic authentication? Clearly when they 
were designed in the original IP spec long ago the designers didn't understand
network security very well because the whole field was at its infancy. And 
CIPSO doesn't solve any of these fundamental issues.

It assumes a trusted network which is a very dangerous assumption.  I don't 
think that was in the original patch I looked at, I surely would have 
objected to it.

Perhaps take the network part out? I guess SMACK would be useful
locally even without questionable network support.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-30  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-30  0:20 [PATCH] Version 3 (2.6.23-rc8) Smack: Simplified Mandatory Access Control Kernel Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30  8:16 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-30  8:42   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-09-30 17:14     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 17:34       ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 23:24         ` david
2007-09-30 17:29     ` Joshua Brindle
2007-09-30 17:39       ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 19:07         ` Theodore Tso
2007-09-30 20:05           ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-30 20:22             ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-01 20:28             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 20:18           ` Paul Moore
2007-09-30  9:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-09-30 17:19     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-02  8:36     ` Thomas Bleher
2007-09-30 17:02   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-09-30 20:30   ` Paul Moore
2007-10-01 11:33   ` James Morris
2007-10-01 15:07     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 15:40       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-01 16:04         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 17:54           ` Olivier Galibert
2007-10-02 21:02           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-02 21:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-02 23:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-03  0:12                 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-04 22:56                   ` Derek Fawcus
2007-10-04 23:18                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-10-04 23:44                       ` Derek Fawcus
2007-10-03  5:32                 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-03  3:54               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-03  4:52                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-05  1:44                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-05  3:04                     ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-05  4:45                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-05  5:48                         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-05 16:27                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-05 18:42                             ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-05 20:08                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-05 20:11                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 17:50                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 18:47                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 18:53                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 21:05                                     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 16:18                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 17:31                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-09 13:52                                 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-09 16:02                                   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 23:24                               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-08 16:06                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 17:20                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 18:00                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-08 19:29                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 19:50                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 20:39                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 21:02                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-08 21:20                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-10 13:48                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-10 15:45                                     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-10-10 17:57                                       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-11 10:46                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-11 15:41                                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-11 18:53                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-11 20:09                                               ` Alan Cox
2007-10-08 21:51                                 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30  4:01                               ` Kazuki Omo(Company)
2007-10-30 15:07                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 20:25                             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-08 20:57                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-06 19:14                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-03  0:10             ` Alan Cox
2007-10-03  0:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-01 16:39         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-01 19:00         ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-01 15:38     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-01 20:49   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-01  3:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-01  4:15   ` Casey Schaufler

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